does the rear wing ACTUALLY provide any benefit? - Page 3

Cho · #31 04-02-2007, 01:05 PM

I noticed that the trunk lit was a lot lighter when i removed my wing to sand and repaint. I ended up driving the car for about a week without the wing on and it didnt seem to make a difference at all. You really have to be going over 90mph to feel any difference and doing so really damages your tranny. (thats why mine has been sitting outside for the past 6 months.) Damn that WRX, if only i had a 5speed.

The wing itself is light and fiberglass. Also a pain to repaint properly without any orange peel. Unless ur really going to try and drop a lot of weight, it's unnecessary to remove it. But, whatever floats your boat.

rallyingrob · #32 04-02-2007, 05:30 PM

LOL

thanks sperry!!

and yes..........the car is getting lightened A LOT!!!!!!!!

(anyone seen whats under the little sail panels beneath the 1/4 windows? is it so ugly that i'll want to keep them?)

rob"just call me lexan"m.

It's Just Eric · #33 04-02-2007, 06:34 PM

YEah, it's pretty ugly...but theres a few rubber plugs you can take out before putting the cover back on

Hocrest · #34 04-02-2007, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by rallyingrob

anyone seen whats under the little sail panels beneath the 1/4 windows? is it so ugly that i'll want to keep them?

Yeah, keep them on. We tried going without on the Racer. It didn't look good. Plus if you go without, that area will fill with mud that will weigh more than those panels.

What's your plan for the Lexan?

AlcyoneDaze · #35 04-03-2007, 09:32 AM

so, what was the conclusion here? no downforce, right? just a style thing that adds 9lbs of weight and a little more drag...

ensteele · #36 04-03-2007, 10:38 AM

I have read someplace that it did produce downforce. I have driven both at high speed and I feel there is a difference. Maybe it was the difference in the cars, but the one without did not feel as stable. I will try to find the facts about the downforce. I have been wrong before, so I will try to find out where I read it.

rallyingrob · #37 04-03-2007, 07:32 PM

lexan side windows(one piece sadly.......they have to be installed in such a way was to still allow the driver/co-driver to exit if u r on yer roof...and i REALLY wont fit through the existing opening, especially with a race-suit on and adrenaline flowing....

and rear 1/4 windows and rear screen..

i have a semi-crazy idea to mount the rad to the cage back-stays and was going to use the rear 1/4 window openings to scoop air into it....if i do it, i will just use plexi for the rear screen...

the rear screen would be hole-sawed into swiss cheese to allow air to flow...

(this hare-brained idea also involves an alloy/lexan bulkhead behind the seats...)

actualllllyyyyyyyyy.........what would be kinda neat is alloy rear window louvres ala camaros/vettes etc......use no rear "glass" at all........

ps.thanks eric 'n hocrest !!

redlinedeath · #38 11-19-2007, 09:56 PM

screw all this, im going to remove my spoiler, put flames down the side, get 13 inch wheels sticking 5 inches out of the side of the car, and get a triple decker aluminum spoiler that sits 4 feet above the car!! YEAH!

NikFu S. · #39 11-19-2007, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by redlinedeath

screw all this, im going to remove my spoiler, put flames down the side, get 13 inch wheels sticking 5 inches out of the side of the car, and get a triple decker aluminum spoiler that sits 4 feet above the car!! YEAH!

Move to Japan and you could be a hero for it.

crazyhorse · #40 11-20-2007, 03:00 PM

Dunno what I can REALLY add except that the wing DOES add drag & a small amount of weight. When moved rearward I'd think it'd add just slightly more downforce.
I think the wing is mostly for styling, but at speeds of probably 90+mph it'd add a small amount of downforce. Most of it at the tips of the wing from the wake turbulence hitting it. It effectively raises the decklid height, to the airflow anyways. The foil itself is above the boundary layer, so the clean air hits the top of the wing itself, at speed.

In short, moved rearward, the wing MAY actually be of benefit at high speeds. Without scientific data I can't say how much downforce it'd generate, but I'd bet on 25-30 lbs at 100mph.

sicksubie · #41 11-20-2007, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Cho

I noticed that the trunk lit was a lot lighter when i removed my wing to sand and repaint. I ended up driving the car for about a week without the wing on and it didnt seem to make a difference at all. You really have to be going over 90mph to feel any difference and doing so really damages your tranny. (thats why mine has been sitting outside for the past 6 months.) Damn that WRX, if only i had a 5speed.

The wing itself is light and fiberglass. Also a pain to repaint properly without any orange peel. Unless ur really going to try and drop a lot of weight, it's unnecessary to remove it. But, whatever floats your boat.

Hurts your tranny??? How?

jman050 · #42 11-20-2007, 05:29 PM

since when does driving at 90mph hurt your tranny

....actuall heat and shock hurts your tranny....and speed does not nessasarily translate to heat

sicksubie · #43 11-20-2007, 05:33 PM

if you are cruising at 90mph I do not see that as being a lot more harmful than cruising at say, 50mph. Sure the parts are spinning faster but still......

Myxalplyx · #44 11-20-2007, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by lhopp77

It is definitely not a ricer style spoiler. I like it. In fact the car with it has never been confused as a ricer, but one without is definitely many times confused as a Ford Probe.

Spoiler weighs in at only 9 lbs.

Lee

Don't let me have to tell you again Lee.

And if you look closer, the box weighs in at 6 oz (3.3ltr or 3 +3 = 6). I see the relation here.

b3lha · #45 11-21-2007, 02:21 AM

The simple test is to leave unlatch the lid then go for a drive and see if enough downforce is generated to click it shut.

I think it's just for decoration.