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Re: Re: Re: Its about time the US looks at new lighting rules! (long)
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So when I have to pay an inspection fee because I bought wider tires, can I send the bill to you?
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"In Germany and throughout Europe, customising laws are an important factor in vehicle modification. After WW II, a technical proving institute known as TÜV came into being, putting many restrictions on cars and parts in Germany. For example, car owners are issued complete car identification papers with all the technical data such as height, weight, wheel and tyre size, motor etc, for each car. All custom parts used on the car must be listed in the paperwork. Each vehicle is inspected by TÜV every 2 years. All custom parts must be tested and approved by TÜV or the cars don't pass the inspection. If illegal parts are found on a vehicle they must be removed, and the owner is subject to losing the vehicle registration and insurance." www.englishpages.de/hamburg/travel.htm Whee! That sounds like fun, doesn't it? I love Big Brother. Quote:
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"...driver shall use a distribution of light, or composite beam, so aimed that the glaring rays are not projected into the eyes of the oncoming driver." (RCW 46.37.230) Quote:
I am not blowing this out of proportion. Is the world getting more dangerous? No. Then why all the new laws? Why do we have a jay-walking law? Are you incapable of crossing the street without special lines to guide you? My dog can cross the street safely, AND HE'S A DOG! Anyone who is oblivious to the fact that roads are full of fast-moving, dangerous vehicles wizzing back and forth is also quite likely to be unaware of the jay-walking law. I'm insulted that somebody thinks I'm too stupid to cross the street without my own little lane. It concerns me that someone might actually ticket an adult for crossing the street without the assistance of a timed light. Bicyclists must now wear helmets. How long until pedestrians will also be required to wear them? More than 50% of fatalities in car accidents are a direct result of head trauma. How soon until we'll be required to wear helmets in our cars? Imagine cutting fatalities in half! We don't need more laws. Last edited by UberRoo; 05-19-2004 at 03:09 AM. |
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When was the last time you enjoyed driving behind someone in a car so badly in need of a tuneup that you had to inhale a black and blue plume of smog? Quote:
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My friend, there are many, many things, horrible things, that people would do were there not laws to prohibit them from committing these acts. Do not forget: not everyone has the good sense that you or I do about these things. Quote:
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Besides, can you imagine how chaotic urban thoroghfares would be if you had a hundred crackerjacks crossing the road indiscriminately, not at every intersection, but through them? Or all along the road? Roads and sidewalks are an infrastructure. Emphasis on structure which means that they are designed to do something, that being, conduct both pedestrian and vehicular traffic in an efficient and safe manner. There is nothing efficient or safe about chaos. Just ask my friend who visited Jakarta recently. Quote:
Likewise, pedestrians will never be required to use a helmet. Cars will simply be made safer for pedestrian impacts. This is occurring in europe already. While I tend to disagree with this as an extreme, other such measures have already come to pass, in the form of softer front and rear bumpers, which while they hurt freedom of styling at first, are a good thing in the long run. Designers will always find a way to meet the standard while improving the way things look. Quote:
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So you see, that laws are not a blatant attempt to rob you of your precious 'freedoms' but an attempt to protect everyone else's freedoms from the lowest common denominator. Or would you prefer wild-west justice? That is what 'officer's discretion' amounts to in the end, and THAT would be a scary world. Would you like Freedom Fries with that? *shudder* |
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For much of my driving (in the SVX) I would blame the glare of many of the SUV's, etc. on my being so low to the ground. Then I drove my father-in-law's old F150 pickup (much higher seating, of course) and STILL encountered an awful lot of headlight glare. I'm so tired of 'misdirected' lighting....... (including all those dimbulbs driving around with their 'foglights' on ALL the time...... )
I wanted better lighting on the SVX- the mod'ed Cool Blue 9005's seem to be the best resolution for our 'low' beams. ( .....and I'm careful to make sure they are properly aimed.) I also needed some lighting improvements on my 'new' '94 Legacy Touring Wagon and finally found something that I'm happy with- some 90/100w H4's (clear- not those hideous dark blue tinted 'white' bulbs that lose half of their light output to filtering) CAREFULLY aimed. I can finally see as well as in my wife's new Freelander. -Mark |
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"The mania for giving the Government power to meddle with the private affairs of cities or citizens is likely to cause endless trouble ... there is great danger that our people will lose our independence of thought and action which is the cause of much of our greatness." --- Mark Twain Quote:
"The interest in encouraging freedom of expression in a democratic society outweighs any theoretical but unproven benefit of censorship." --- The Supreme Court of the United States of America, from the decision on the Communications Decency Act. (I think this applies to all freedoms.) Quote:
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You might never see that law because the majority of people would complain that is messes up their hair (and makes it hard to talk on a cell-phone.) You don't see the majority of people complain about motorcycle helmets because the majority of people don't ride motorcycles. If you ask most motorcyclists, they're against helmet laws. Head trauma is a huge factor in automobile injuries and that's precisely why every auto racing sport requires the use of a helmet. So far, no other technology compares to a helmet, and by a great margin. Gaining acceptance of an automobile helmet law would take some time. If we whittle away our freedoms slowly, nobody notices. If we move in huge steps, people complain. "When they took the 4th Amendment, I was quiet because I didn't deal drugs. When they took the 6th Amendment, I was quiet because I am innocent. When they took the 2nd Amendment, I was quiet because I don't own a gun. Now they have taken the 1st Amendment, and I can only be quiet." --- Lyle Myhr Just because the law doesn't affect you, doesn't mean it isn't important. Just because it only takes away a very small amount of freedom doesn't mean it won't set a dangerous precedent to removing much more. Playing with matches is still playing with fire. Quote:
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--- I appreciate this debate. --- "Cyberspace, in its present condition, has a lot in common with the 19th century west. It is vast, unmapped, culturally and legally ambiguous, verbally terse (unless you happen to be a court stenographer), hard to get around in, and up for grabs. Large institutions already claim to own the place, but most of the actual natives are solitary and independent, sometimes to the point of sociopathy. It is, of course, a perfect breeding ground for both outlaws and new ideas about liberty." --- John Perry Barlow Last edited by UberRoo; 05-19-2004 at 11:28 PM. |
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Wow!!! Roo & Nemesis have certainly captured this thread & elevated rhetoric to higher level. I didn't notice one, "you're a freakin' moron"! either. Good work gentlemen.
The topic? Oh.... I remember winding through many a dark & stormy night with nothing but big round sealed beam headlights, one probably burned out, & here I am, still alive to brag on it. Mmmmmmm.... sealed beams...four choices - High-beam or low-beam round, high-beam or low beam square. What'd they cost.... 3-4 bucks at K-Mart? In & out of the bulb aisle in ten seconds. NOW!!!! Go to the little plastic digital box.... Press 1. for English, 2. for Espanol. Press > to continue. 20 minutes & 20 bucks later I (hopefully) got a bulb that fits, but I can't touch because fingerprints will void the warranty. Opps...forgot to buy the gourmet plastic lens polish kit. 10 more bucks. A doofus backs into your sealed beam & breaks it. Another 4 bucks & 30 seconds. A doofus backs into your "crystal projector lamp gatling gun array". Five hunnert bucks & we haven't gotten to the so-called bumper yet. A three-year old Civic is now declared a total in a parallel parking mishap. Screw it! I'm gonna' climb up on a bar stool now. Where's my safety helmet? Carry on. Ron.
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Debates are no fun once they become uncivilized.
The low cost and standardization of sealed-beam headlights is pretty cool. Unfortunately, even the highest quality ones still produce an unfocused beam. I rather like the color of the light they produce, but getting it where you want it can be challenging. One major downside of sealed-beam lights is that the face of the lens is square with oncoming debris. Any small rock that gets kicked up by a tire will break the lens. Lights that angle back will deflect rocks rather than try to absorb them, (which glass just doesn't do very well.) Amazingly, they do frequently function for a quite a while even with big rock dings and water in the bottom. On the Sylvania bulbs, the little glass stem that holds the filaments tends to break off. I haven't found an explanation for this. Vibration or sudden cooling seem like the only possible causes. Wagner and GE don't have this problem. There are five major sizes I know of. Large round, small round, large rectangle, small rectangle, and a subsize rectangle which is as wide as the small one, but not as high. Sylvania bulbs don't last very long but are usually cheaper by about ten percent. Wagner or GE are both pretty good, with GE being the least expensive. Regular sealed beam bulbs are 35 low, 45 high. These are somewhat uncommon because most people find them too dim. The most common seems to be 45/55, but 45/65 and 55/65 are fairly easy to find. The large sizes are sometimes available in 55/75, and seem to be focused better. Generally speaking, small reflectors, such as those found in HIDs and fog lights, tend to have difficulty creating a quality beam pattern and to oncoming traffic appear very bright. Larger reflectors consistently produce a more useful beam and appear less intense to people looking directly at them. I buy the small 55/65 GE lights for one of my cars, but they cost about $14 apiece, as opposed to the 45/55 Sylvania bulbs which are about $5 each. I have seven sealed-beam headlights, which I use for rallying. With the shock and vibration they don't last very long. Sometimes I turn on both high and low filaments simultaneously and this shortens their life-span tremendously. I've seen assemblies to replace sealed-beam lights with a special lens and reflector housing that accepts the replaceable filaments like modern cars use. I don't know if the quality of their reflectors is any better as I've never had an opportunity to use one. The potential is there. I'm consistently amazed that the round light on the front of my motorcycle can produce a perfect, square beam that surpasses virtually any pair of lights on a car. I think just about all motorcycles have these fantastic assemblies, and have had them for decades. (Mine is over twenty years old!) Last edited by UberRoo; 05-20-2004 at 10:49 PM. |
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