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- Ca$h PS: They do have horrible interiors... though not as bad as J bodies. Blech. But they're fast, reliable, and cheap. |
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Whether or not the general public (ie owners) are ignorant, they are at least familiar with their own experiences and I think that they're qualified to relate those. Some other auto reliability rating sites echo what you say - that besides the initial head gasket problems, the Neon is basically a reliable car. But I do see suggestions that Neons suffer some serious electrical problems. Can you shed some light on that? And what is the deal with Neons and their friggin' paint? I see Neons all over the place with half their paint peeled off.
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Secondly, yes, they HAVE remedied the headgasket problem. Like I've stated, since mid 1997, they've been using a new headgasket made from multi layered steel, and it has solved ALL PROBLEMS. You don't see 98,99, 00,01, or 02 neons with headgasket problems. Why can't Consumer Reports get this fact through their insanely thick skulls? Because it is a domestic manufacturer, and CR literally craps on any car if it is domestic. Quote:
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Shadow248 But then the only real difference would be in the Neon SRT (220hp), and that should really be compared to the Cavalier Technic (240hp) which isn't due out until next year. The price is cheaper on the Neon, and as i said before, for good reason. One poster in this thread said something about the only reason to buy a cavalier is a trailer and something about a Camaro lawn ornament? Seems to me the only reason to buy a Neon is if you can't afford a Cavalier. [/QUO[QUOTE]Originally posted by Shadow248 [B]TE] GM never builds its concept vehicles. Don't hold your breath for that Cav. Secondly, as a long standing member at neons.org, the Jbody guys have stopped by in our forums quite a bit. Basically, since we're both underdogs (domestics in an area dominated by imports) they've formed some what of a truce, and ..well... its just sort of an accepted fact that if you want to go fast, you get a neon. If you want to 'roll' and 'cruise' and put neon lights and chrome wheels and playboy bunny stickers on your car, get a Cav. >shrug< - Ca$h |
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cash .. even your srt-4 dont even impress me, its still a nenone even down to the core,,, again if u want power and a fast car
buy a toyota supra 300gt vr4 rx7 twin turbo 300 zx twin turbo gsx eclipse AWD turbo dodge neon is in the class of cheap economy cars, i rather own a honda then a neone the turbo kits are cheaper and more reliable hondas have always been reliable if u want cheap fast cars,, bye a muscle car..easy to work on and cheap parts to get any way u put it . your neon it will always be a FWD wich is usless crap can we get back to the original subject thread |
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Where did you hear that? Considering I converse with neon folk almost everday, I'm sure that if this was an issue I would of heard about it, but I haven't heard of an electrical problem from even one person. As for the peeling paint, YEP. Chrysler screwed up. If you ever do buy a neon, BEWARE OF LAPIS BLUE. For some reason, almost ALL "lapis blue" colored neons have peeling paint. Nobody knows exactly why, but that is what you are talking about. The only other car with paint problems was the 1995-1996 White cars, but that isn't as often as the lapis blue. So yeah. There are paint problems, but as long as you buy a good color (Black! ) you're fine. - Ca$h |
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Good. Now shut up. - Ca$h |
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i wouldnt race my svx its slow i admit,,
stock to stock the neon is lunch meet .. no no i got abought a dozen dsm and few supras who love your car title.... => i dunno if im technically blind, but for the love of all things living its a friging neon !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! its not even a sports car not even classified as a sports or even has enough to be a sports car,, cash i have never seen any one so thick headed if i was moderating u would have been booted on the 1st thread, ]me no spell. me moron. ooga ooga ]"quote cash" see this is why i call u a childish kid,, i have never said anything directly to u like this.. just giving my opnions, this needs to stop . cash u cant sem to talk u just argue, i definatly dont aperciate it |
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You know, everyone... I just wanted to post a little news since it was somewhat important to me and a few others. I didnt mean to start such an uprising. And I certanly didnt want an attack on j-bodies. My cav is my baby. I value it more than anything I have, and It is difficult for me to not be offended when someone makes an attack on something so close to home. My cav has no chrome wheels, playboy bunny stickers, OR neons.
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Out for good. Last edited by DavieGravy; 09-06-2002 at 12:57 PM. |
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Look, if the Neon is really a super-reliable car, that's fine. But I want some sort of independent documentation of the claim before I just believe you because you say so. So far, you have provided me with none.
Although I will again say that the ratings I have found suggest that, aside from the engine, supposed electircal problems, peeling paint and interior problems, the car is basically reliable. "In fact... I can think of another car that has MORE problems that are even more expensive (transmissions dying, rear wheel bearings) that SOMEHOW, SOMEWAY, people don't automatically say "Oh those are POSs the transmissions always blow up!". I mean...has Subaru ever even completely fixed the problem with the SVXs transmissions? Nope. Yet magazines won't mark the SVX as horribly unreliable. Why? Its an import, thats why." I think that's grossly inaccurate. Nobody reports on the SVX's problems because there's no money in it. Not enough people are buying them. Why spend the money writing and printing an article that nobody's going to read? I call my SVX reliable because it has been. I imagine that you defend the Neon for the same reason. I don't defend the SVX for the basic reason that it's an import. As far as I know, imports still have a bad rep in most of the country. Cripes, I used to work with a guy who told me that all Japanese cars were deathtraps. His word - I'm not kidding. When I confronted him with the NHTSA and IIHS safety ratings, he claimed that Japanese cars were tested with lighter dummies. I'm not kidding. Those are the kinds of things that a large percentage of people in this country believe about imported cars. Not to mention the 'patriot' argument.
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Anyway, congrats on your cav, as I'm sure YOU have good taste, but the majority of the cav community does not. :| - Ca$h |
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