Water Pump, Pulley, Crank & Cam seals

[Bizarre]

Hey team,

Since I am not mechanically astute enough to do it myself I am having a Subaru dealership (oh boy) in Delaware do the following for me:

replace water pump
replace pulley (one is bad)
replace cam and crank seals (should be done at 90K even though I am at 80K)

Dealership quotes:
water pump at $129
pulley at $179 (ouch)
cam & crank seals $32
labor $85 per hour x 5.5 = $450
Total = $790

Let me know your opinions on whether or not I am paying too much.

Biz

[svxsubaru1]

I dont know about the SVX but for a 1 gen legacy i can get a water pump for $40, and a idler pullie for $40 or less and the cam and crank seals are a couple of bucks each.

[dcarrb]

That quote is some $350 more than I paid to have the same work done, parts and labor, with the timing belt replaced instead of a pulley. That said, my mechanic is is proprietor of a small garage in a rural, north Georgia town. Even if there were a Subaru dealership nearby, I'd prefer to do business with a small, locally-owned shop any day.

I don't recall all the specifics, but do remember the cost of the (reman) water pump: $42.

If your timing belt is original, I'd suggest having it replaced when the other work is done.


dcb

These prices are on par with OE parts. Labor seems about right too.

Why "should" your crank and cam seals be replaced at 90k? If they aren't leaking, you don't need to replace them!


SVXsubaru1, we aren't talking about a first gen Legacy. Tons of those were built and parts are easy to come by. We're also not talking about aftermarket or reman parts. And the pulley he mentions may be a crank pulley, not an idler.


Dave

[Bizarre]

Thanks Red.

I had read about the crank and cam seals in another post.
Some guy said swapping out at 90K was recommeded.
Maybe it's not.

It is only $32 and since they are already inside the timing belt housing messing around I figured what the hey.

Adrian

A lot of people have different views on maintenance. It certainly wouldn't hurt to have the seals replaced since he's in there already.......but I wouldn't go around changing seals just based on mileage.




Dave

[dcarrb]

Let me back up and say that I don't mean to disparage Subaru dealerships nor advise against the use of Suby parts. Usually it's a matter of simple economics. And, when I hand-over a buck, I'd rather it be to a guy who will fold it with an appreciative nod and stuff it into his pocket.


dcb

I'm not sure what the average cost for all this should be at a dealership (I did the work myself), but I can tell you that $129 for a water pump is quite steep. Take a look at water pumps on subaruparts.com. I think I got mine for around $80 - $90. New.

[glaze148]

Hi everyone,
Have a 92 touring w/82,000 mi. Was advised to do timing belt by other members.
Found a Suburu Dealer in Santa Cruz ,Ca that was recommended on the site. Dealer said he has experience with SVX's
Pls tell me if this quote sounds logical.
Dealer stated that the following parts should be ordered and be available for job
5 stationary idlers @89.36 ea.
Timing belt tensioner- 130.68
Water pump and gaskets- 155.95 plus a bit more for gaskets
timing belt-118.07- {470 installed}
He did state that the water pumps are often ok, and it may not be necessary to replace.
He also stated that if the other parts are ok, I would not be responsible for having ordered them. They could be returned.
If everything is necessary the total would be around $1500
Is this reasonable, or overkill?
Another member recommended them, and said that the timing belt alone would be around $200.That's what brought me to this dealer.{ 100 miles from home, and an overnight motel stay}
Any thoughts.
Thanks a lot

[TomsSVX]

yikes, thats steep, I forgot how much dealers charge... But for all that I guess its typical

Tom

[SubaruPartsGirl]

OMGHi2Me...It's been a while since I have had any replies to this thread. I hope that everyone is doing well! The discount is still in place for SVX forum members.

Water Pump - $115.00
Gasket - $2.36
Thermostat - $11.50
Gasket - $2.64
Timing Belt - $80.73
Idler - $89.06 x 2
Idler - $99.70 x 2
Idler - $64.06 x 2

It is definitely an expensive job to complete if you plan on having it done at a dealer. Check to see if there are any local guys willing to give you a hand with the job or if there are any local dealers who are Subaru friendly, or better yet, SVX friendly. Here in Maryland we have a guy who I personally recommend for SVX work as he is an owner and knows the product very well.


Thanks,
Jackie
Annapolis Suby
443-837-1422

[TomsSVX]

hey Jackie, wouldn't mind having a dealer as a primary parts supplier for us, is there anything beyond that you can do for us here? We run a SVX specialty shop in Jersey

Tom

[Roo]

Originally Posted by glaze148

Hi everyone,
Have a 92 touring w/82,000 mi. Was advised to do timing belt by other members.
Found a Suburu Dealer in Santa Cruz ,Ca that was recommended on the site. Dealer said he has experience with SVX's
Pls tell me if this quote sounds logical.
Dealer stated that the following parts should be ordered and be available for job
5 stationary idlers @89.36 ea.
Timing belt tensioner- 130.68
Water pump and gaskets- 155.95 plus a bit more for gaskets
timing belt-118.07- {470 installed}
He did state that the water pumps are often ok, and it may not be necessary to replace.
He also stated that if the other parts are ok, I would not be responsible for having ordered them. They could be returned.
If everything is necessary the total would be around $1500
Is this reasonable, or overkill?
Another member recommended them, and said that the timing belt alone would be around $200.That's what brought me to this dealer.{ 100 miles from home, and an overnight motel stay}
Any thoughts.
Thanks a lot

Please, please, please read this carefully.

Go to LIC Motorsports in Novato. Do NOT waste your time/money travelling to Santa Cruz when there is a shop in your own backyard who does a MUCH BETTER job than any dealership could come close to doing.

I work for a local Subaru dealership in the North Bay, and used to work for another in Marin County. LIC Motorsports is one of only two shops in the United States that I can trust completely...hand them the keys, and have them fix it. I don't EVER have to question the work that's been done, and Adam (lead tech/owner) is more honest than God, often talking you out of things you DON'T need, even if you think you do.

www.licmotorsports.com

www.justin.tv/licmotorsports

^You can watch them live on the web, see their shop, see them working on cars, and ask yourself, "How many other shops have nothing to hide?"...

...then tell them that "Roo" sent you.

BTW, right now Adam is an SVX owner as well, although he's looking to sell it as he doesn't have enough time to enjoy it.

[glaze148]

Originally Posted by Roo

Please, please, please read this carefully.

Go to LIC Motorsports in Novato. Do NOT waste your time/money travelling to Santa Cruz when there is a shop in your own backyard who does a MUCH BETTER job than any dealership could come close to doing.

I work for a local Subaru dealership in the North Bay, and used to work for another in Marin County. LIC Motorsports is one of only two shops in the United States that I can trust completely...hand them the keys, and have them fix it. I don't EVER have to question the work that's been done, and Adam (lead tech/owner) is more honest than God, often talking you out of things you DON'T need, even if you think you do.

www.licmotorsports.com

www.justin.tv/licmotorsports

^You can watch them live on the web, see their shop, see them working on cars, and ask yourself, "How many other shops have nothing to hide?"...

...then tell them that "Roo" sent you.

BTW, right now Adam is an SVX owner as well, although he's looking to sell it as he doesn't have enough time to enjoy it.

Roo,
You sure got my head on straight.
What a favor.
Thanks,
Steve

[SubaruPartsGirl]

Roooo...how ya doing at your new place?