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Wow. That's awfully pessimistic. My 95 has the original tranny with 160,000 miles on it. Only the 92's had bad tranny problems. They got much better after that. Dave |
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I agree it's pessimistic.
However, I am completely unaware of any difference whatsoever in the '92 tranny vs. any other model year.
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'92 LS-not-so-L: the "SVreX"- Saved from a crusher, an SVX racer built by home schooled students for less than $2000 (including purchase price). 13.8 second 1/4 mile. Autocrossing monster!! '92 LS-L Claret: '01 RS 4:11 5-speed, Exedy organic, lightened flywheel, and Koni/ GC |
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Best 5spd /4.44 gear doner?
I just got my 92 almost 2 weeks ago. I love it...except of course the automatic. Im researching the 5 speed swap but I also want the gears to go with it. I read somewhere that the car to go with would be a 97 or 98 outback legacy? Does anyone know if i can use the trans and both diffs as a direct bolt in? Any advice would be helpful...thanks
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*decides* Time to start saving up. Looks like I'll be biking to work this summer
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Then you haven't done your homework Many of the internals were eventually modified by Subaru to prevent premature failure. Dave |
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Au contraire. I've done hundreds of hours of homework on this issue.
The 4eat was a fine tranny out of the box. It's only real issue was the fluid cooling in the SVX application. Airflow around it is decreased, so heat is increased. Additionally, the car is driven significantly harder than many of it's counterparts wearing the same tranny, so the overheating issue is compounded. Also, because of the AWD, there is a much higher percentage of Subies in mountain mountain regions, which also is a strain on the tranny. Thermal breakdown of ATF occurs earlier when overheated- life expectancy is drastically reduced. A trans cooler or frequent fluid changes would solve this problem. The built up trannys offfered by companies like Level 10 are mostly increases in fluid flow and cooling. This trans has been used in an 8 second WRX. I'm aware of an awful lot of bad trannies in SVXi other than '92's. I am also aware of plenty of '92's running strong- including one of mine, the SVreX, a racer with 160,000 miles on it. I am no authority, but I'd be real interested in any real data on actual internal changes in the tranny after MY 1992. I see, Dave, that you are an assistant parts manager. Do you have any info on such changes? Sorry, didn't mean to hijack!
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I know that my 95 needed to be rebuilt rather than having a reman put in it. Waited 4 months while the reman 95 tranny was on back order with Subaru. At least it must have been worth the wait. Subafreak tells me it is the best SVX tranny shifting that he's driven and that is 6 years later and 44k on it.
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http://www.subarusvx.com/faq/transmission.html
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Mychailo :: 2006 Silver Mitsubishi Evolution 9, E85, 34 psi peak, 425wtq/505whp DJ :: 1995 Laguna Blue SVX L AWD 5MT (sold) Visit my locker SVX Mods: ND iridium spark plugs, Impreza RS fpr, afr tuned to 13.2:1 using a custom MAF bypass, custom exhaust, WRX 5MT w/ STi RA 1st-4th gear & stock WRX 5th gear, Exedy 13 lb flywheel & Sport Clutch, STi Group N tranny & engine mounts, urethane spacers in rear subframe, rear diff mounts, and pitch stopper, SVX Sport Strut Springs (185f/150r), custom 19 mm rear swaybar, urethane swaybar mounts, Rota Torque 17x8", 225/45-17 Proxes 4 tires, Axxis Deluxe Plus organic brake pads. |
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Thanks, MB.
I've seen that series of articles. The sentence that kind of summarizes it for me, though, is: Quote:
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'92 LS-not-so-L: the "SVreX"- Saved from a crusher, an SVX racer built by home schooled students for less than $2000 (including purchase price). 13.8 second 1/4 mile. Autocrossing monster!! '92 LS-L Claret: '01 RS 4:11 5-speed, Exedy organic, lightened flywheel, and Koni/ GC Last edited by svxhunter; 06-11-2005 at 01:40 PM. |
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Didn't have anything else to say, just had to change my post count!
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'92 LS-not-so-L: the "SVreX"- Saved from a crusher, an SVX racer built by home schooled students for less than $2000 (including purchase price). 13.8 second 1/4 mile. Autocrossing monster!! '92 LS-L Claret: '01 RS 4:11 5-speed, Exedy organic, lightened flywheel, and Koni/ GC |
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I've been driving on my 5-speed tranny for a coulpe weeks. So I can't report on longevity. I used my 98 Forester for the donor 5-speed and 4:11 diffs. It had about 120,000 on the tranny before going into my SVX. I love the performance of 5-speed. I spent about $2000 on the conversion. Most of that was labor and the useless smallcar basic kit. I don't recommend getting the small car kit. It is better to find someone who can fabricate a good tranny cross member and other components needed for conversion. I think the ideal 5 speed tranny would be one from a wrx or turbo Forester XT with 4:11 diffs. I hear they are stronger than a standard 5-speed. But I haven't seen any proof of this. I also recently put in a driveline from a 95 Legacy and am real happy with that. the 95-99 Legacy/outback 5-speed drivelines are for the most part a direct bolt-in with very little modifications.
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Doesnt the small car kit come with directions on how to modify the trans cross memeber and brackets for the clutch assembely, driveshaft spacers? Were the differentials from the 98 forester a direct bolt in or did you have to swap gears over. |
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I bought the small car kit too, and didn't use many of the pieces. A few pieces I didn't use because someone forgot to put them in the kit. :-/ Most of the brackets included in the Small Car kit are not so great, and the spacer for the driveline is not a great way to compensate for the 5MT being shorter in length. Better to just by the '97-'99 Legacy Outback driveshaft.
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Mychailo :: 2006 Silver Mitsubishi Evolution 9, E85, 34 psi peak, 425wtq/505whp DJ :: 1995 Laguna Blue SVX L AWD 5MT (sold) Visit my locker SVX Mods: ND iridium spark plugs, Impreza RS fpr, afr tuned to 13.2:1 using a custom MAF bypass, custom exhaust, WRX 5MT w/ STi RA 1st-4th gear & stock WRX 5th gear, Exedy 13 lb flywheel & Sport Clutch, STi Group N tranny & engine mounts, urethane spacers in rear subframe, rear diff mounts, and pitch stopper, SVX Sport Strut Springs (185f/150r), custom 19 mm rear swaybar, urethane swaybar mounts, Rota Torque 17x8", 225/45-17 Proxes 4 tires, Axxis Deluxe Plus organic brake pads. |
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The issue for "direct bolt in" rear diff is that the external mounting locations, etc. don't line up with the SVX. The inside of the cases are identical so the gears can be swapped easily, but the external bolt holes, etc. are different. I'm not aware of a rear diff which will bolt directly into the SVX, but swapping the gears was really easy (I'd never done it before).
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'92 LS-not-so-L: the "SVreX"- Saved from a crusher, an SVX racer built by home schooled students for less than $2000 (including purchase price). 13.8 second 1/4 mile. Autocrossing monster!! '92 LS-L Claret: '01 RS 4:11 5-speed, Exedy organic, lightened flywheel, and Koni/ GC |
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The 92's were not the only problematic trannys, but they were the most problematic. It is far more common to see a 94+ SVX go more than 100k on the original tranny than it is to see a 92 do it. If your SVX really does have 160K on the original tranny (and I suspect it was rebuilt at some point) then consider yourself very lucky. A lot of 92's went through several transmissions while they were still under warranty, and some continued to need them even after because the early rebuilts were no better than the original. Dave |
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