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AMC Gremlin was the ugliest car ever made but that damned Aztek Pontiac puked up might just change my opinion of the Gremlin.
A blown or dragged out Pacer is just plain cool! No two ways about it for me I have a real soft spot for cars being modified to fly in the face of what they were designed to do. That said, however, the softspot hardens right up for most ricer-boy cars. There are exceptions but they are few and far between.
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Hummmm
<This is an 03 Cavalier TurboSport from sema...
http://www.j-body.org/gallery/sema2...ay/P1010038.JPG Mike> Now THAT looks pretty interesting....but is it just me, or do you see some strong influence of the Mustang on that design? (replace the bowtie with a horse). I wish GM would get off their duffs and just MAKE the Solstice. How long will it take for Bob Lutz's ideas to surface as production cars at the General? Perhaps the (Holden) GTO and the SSR pickup are heading them in the right direction.....Don
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<if you buy a Cavalier, Neon, Civic, Sentra, etc. for performance there's something wrong>
...unless you pick a SE-R Spec V Sentra or a SRT-4 Neon. The new Civic Si has, for some reason, headed in a different direction.... Don
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Also, you might think twice about dissin' the Gremlin. Our admin's (Chris) dad races one and does quite well with it.
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Randy Johnson 3rd Registered Member 02-21-2001 First Member to Reach 10,000 Posts First to arrive at the very first Reading Meet Subaru Ambassador 1992 SVX PPG Pace Car Replica 110+k 1993 White Impreza L 240+K miles 2001 Legacy Outback Limited Sedan 250+K miles 2013 Deep Indigo Pearl Legacy 3.6R 49+K miles "Reading is my favorite Holiday" Mike Davis -- at Reading VI |
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This is bad, but I'm gonna come right out and say it..
Hi, my name is Adam and I'm thinking very seriously about buying an SRT-4 when I finish college this year.... |
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I've never understood the reasoning behind some designs - I can't believe that good design really costs more than bad.
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But, all the best to you.
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Randy Johnson 3rd Registered Member 02-21-2001 First Member to Reach 10,000 Posts First to arrive at the very first Reading Meet Subaru Ambassador 1992 SVX PPG Pace Car Replica 110+k 1993 White Impreza L 240+K miles 2001 Legacy Outback Limited Sedan 250+K miles 2013 Deep Indigo Pearl Legacy 3.6R 49+K miles "Reading is my favorite Holiday" Mike Davis -- at Reading VI |
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LOL
for all I care it could be a Diahatsu or a Kia.. All I can see is 215 turbocharged ponies and 245 pound-feet of twist for 20 grand. |
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Rice....and other grains
<Hope you enjoy it Adam. I've gotten to the point, however, that I wouldn't buy a Neon on a dare, or, if it were the last mode of transportation on this earth, or the best damned car EVER. That's how SICK I am of hearing about them.
But, all the best to you.> ------------------- That Randy....always the diplomat! Tell us how you REALLY feel....don't be shy! The latest issue of Sport Compact Car had a shootout among 8 sport compacts under $20k. The ranking, from last to first, was.. 8. Honda Civic Si 7. VW Golf GTI 1.8T 6. Hyundai Tiburon V6 5. Nissan Sentra SE-R Spec 5 3. (tie) Mini Cooper S 3. (tie) Ford SVT Focus 2. Mazdaspeed Protege 1. Dodge Neon SRT-4 The little turbo Protege came within a HAIR of taking first place. On the road course it took the Neon almost three miles to open "an appreciable gap on the Protege". That is 150 hp at the wheels on the Protege vs. 223 for the Neon. But to be fair, it was not just raw horsepower that tipped the scales for the Neon. Its lateral grip on the skidpad was a good .85g. but the Protege produced .89 with a much better chassis. If the Neon had adjustable camber (it doesn't) it would have done better. In the REAL WORLD I would give the edge to the Mazda for getting its power to the ground better in less-than-ideal conditions. Just my opinion. My best friend Barry has a new Protege, just a little LX version, with only 130 hp....but I have driven it, and the handling is excellent. The Mazdaspeed is basically a MP3 with a turbo, and I would say would make a very nicely balanced machine. Just to compare with my new SVT Focus.... Focus Protege Neon 0-60 7.7 / 7.6 / 5.8 skidpad .87g / .89 / .85 braking 60-0 122ft / 123ft/ 119 700ft slalom 68.4 / 70.3/ 69.0 1/4 mile 15.7@ 88.5/ 15.5@89.4 / 14.2@99.5 Numbers don't lie folks.....the SRT-4 is one hot number. I just have my doubts that either it or the Mazaspeed Protege (which isn't in the showrooms EITHER!) will be available at their suggested prices of under $20k. Which to me, makes the comparison a bit unfair. The Mazda and Neon they tested were not production models, and they were not available to the public at the time of the test. If our local Dodge dealer pads the first SRT-4's like they did the first PT Cruisers, you will have to wait a year to get one anywhere near $20k. Besides, with that kind of power, SRT-4 owners will not be messing with the rest of us...they will be out drag racing WRX's for Pete's sake! One thing in closing. I have driven a ACR Neon, and it handled very nicely. Add power to one of those, and you have something. BUT....and this is a huge thing to consider....I have met about 4 Neon owners and none....NONE....were happy with the reliability of their cars. My next door neighbor threatened to BEAT me if I even as much as CONSIDERED one. Puff that engine to 223+ hp....will it last? But if the PVO guys at Dodge have done to it, what the SVT guys at Ford have done with the Focus..... Don
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As far as the Gremlin's go, yeah...you can make them fast as hell. Heck, look how fast one can make a Neon. It still doesn't make the Gremlin any less unbalanced looking and ugly. But hey, like the Pontiac Aztek, someone must have thought it was attractive enough to sell.
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if i was more of an outdoors person.... i can find myself thinking that the built in tent of the aztec would come in handy... dunno... i thought the aztec was rather creative... closest thing to looking like a tank out here....
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Oh what the hell. Since the topic includes AMC - remember the '57 Rambler Rebel Station wagon? 255 HP V-8, 0-60 in 7.5 secs. (why do I remember that?) That was FORTY-FIVE years ago, gentleman! What's the point? I have no idea. Ron.
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