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Someone with a 96 or 97........
How much engine oil does your car take when you change your oil? Do you have a standard filter or an oversized filter?
I thought the capacity was 6.3 quarts but my mechanic said it took almost 7 quarts. I have the larger oil filter and he said the oil was slightly above the full mark but that still surprised me. I didn't think the larger filter would hold THAT much more oil. I will check the level again later when I get home.
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Tony 1996 Polo Green Subaru SVX LSi, 168,XXX miles, Redline D4 ATF, Redline 75W90 gear oil, K&N HP-4001 Oil Filter, Mobil 1 5W50 FS (3qt) and 5W30 High Mileage (4qt) Oil Blend, Motul RBF600 Brake Fluid, AC Delco A975C Air Filter, NGK BKR6EIX-11 plugs, Centric Rotors, Power Stop Evolution Carbon Fiber Ceramic Brake Pads 2005 Gray Acura RL, 165,XXX miles, Redline D4 ATF with Lubegard Platinum Protectant, Mobil 1 5W20 High Mileage Extended Performance Oil 2009 Red Toyota Venza, 123,XXX, Mobil 1 5W30 High Mileage Oil 1992 Red Ferrari 348 ts, 82,XXX, Redline everything |
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Re: Someone with a 96 or 97........
My long-known-and-trusted mechanic, who occasionally double-checks my facts (no doubt it's shop policy to confirm all customer-provided diagnoses and specs), has tried telling me my cars hold 7+ quarts of oil. Must be there's erroneous info at some mechanics' Web resource.
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Re: Someone with a 96 or 97........
mine always take 7+ qts.
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Re: Someone with a 96 or 97........
There's always some extra space for a little extra oil. 7 seems like a lot but half a quart over is not a big deal. I always end up putting 6 full quarts and most of another quart. I haven't paid attention to exactly how much though.
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Re: Someone with a 96 or 97........
Hmmm, perhaps the capacity specifications were just flat out wrong.
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Tony 1996 Polo Green Subaru SVX LSi, 168,XXX miles, Redline D4 ATF, Redline 75W90 gear oil, K&N HP-4001 Oil Filter, Mobil 1 5W50 FS (3qt) and 5W30 High Mileage (4qt) Oil Blend, Motul RBF600 Brake Fluid, AC Delco A975C Air Filter, NGK BKR6EIX-11 plugs, Centric Rotors, Power Stop Evolution Carbon Fiber Ceramic Brake Pads 2005 Gray Acura RL, 165,XXX miles, Redline D4 ATF with Lubegard Platinum Protectant, Mobil 1 5W20 High Mileage Extended Performance Oil 2009 Red Toyota Venza, 123,XXX, Mobil 1 5W30 High Mileage Oil 1992 Red Ferrari 348 ts, 82,XXX, Redline everything |
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Re: Someone with a 96 or 97........
Using the oversize Purolator 30165, my engine and filter take just under 7 qts. to bring the oil level on the dipstick exactly to the full mark.
When OT does my oil changes, he always puts in the full 7 qts. That brings the oil level just over the F mark on the dipstick. He said on our engines, he would rather the oil level be a little over than under. .
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. Subaru Ambassador 1996 Polo Green LSi #216..138,100 miles...SOLD JFICX8659TH100216.....Date of Manufacture: November 16, 1995..... Fuji Heavy Industries..Ōta North Plant....Ōta City,. Gunma Prefecture, Japan In-Service Date: January 2, 1997 "The Pristine Green Polo Machine” First Polo Green on the Network First Clear front turn signals, JDM Alcyone hood emblem, rear panel, and BOXER engine cover on the Network (US) (2000) First 5000K HID factory fog lights (2007) First SVX JDM BBS wheels on a USDM SVX (2013) HID lighting (5000K) for headlight and H3 fog lights, PIAA SuperExtreme 120W high beams, rebuilt EG33 longblock, Cometic head gaskets, Phase II flexplate, AMR aluminum radiator with custom silicone hoses, 160A high-output alternator in aluminum-ceramic coated case, new design alternator wiring upgrade v.4, rare factory headlight protectors, refinished JDM BBS mesh aluminum wheels and custom, polished billet aluminum new hex center caps, LED grille mod, R1 Concepts high-carbon cryo slotted rotors, Akebono ceramic pads, Goodridge S/S braided brake lines, Smallcar Stage 1 shift kit, ThermalTech aluminum/ceramic-coated valve covers, Energy Suspension urethane front & rear swaybar bushings, Bontrager22 rear swaybar with QS Components Chromoly Teflon/Kevlar endlinks, "$15.00/5 minute" suspension mod. Hella Supertone horns, Custom stainless steel exhaust system with 2" headpipes, Magnaflow cats, AeroTurbine AR25 resonator /AWD "Bullet" muffler. R.I.P. 2010 Subaru Outback Limited 2.5 CVT...338,000 miles. Totaled by a 1,300 lb. COW March 4, 2016 2014 Hyundai Avante Limited ...178,000 miles. Actually quieter and smoother than the Outback 2007 Mazda Miata MX-5 PRHT...102,000 miles. Plenty of parts, service and windshields. 4th Registered Network member —2/21/2001 My NEW locker..I...My Email..I..Wikipedia/SVX . . |
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Re: Someone with a 96 or 97........
Tis true - valve cover gaskets being what they are and such...
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'94 Laguna Blue LSi ~159k.......JDM ultra short-geared 3.900 STi Version 7 6-speed w/ Cobb shortshifter, ECUtune 244,8.1mm/256,9.1mm i/e cams, group N motor mounts, '97 grille, JDM clear corners, Momo JDM Legacy GT steering wheel, apkarian's LED tails, silver STi BBS wheels, PWR radiator, redstuff pads f/r, drilled/slotted rotors, bontragerworks rsb #18, Koni/GC 450f/375r coilovers, Megan Racing adjustable lateral links, KMac c/c plates, Stebro exhaust, ECUtune 1v5, Optima battery in the trunk where it belongs. Turbo project '97 Ebony LSi ~137k #036.......Power mode mod, JDM clear corners, BBS wheels. AUX/pocket mod Now a mod "over there" ............Photo album |
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Re: Someone with a 96 or 97........
I have a 92, but I always get charged for 7 quarts of oil every time I have the oil changed.
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Re: Someone with a 96 or 97........
I end up using 7 quarts too. The engines are the same in 92 - 97 models.
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Re: Someone with a 96 or 97........
I put in 6.5 on my first and only oil change so far, maybe i should use seven next time XD
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Re: Someone with a 96 or 97........
I always put in about 6-3/4 quarts with the normal sized oil filter and it comes up full on the dipstick.
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Re: Someone with a 96 or 97........
Just courous Ensteele! Do you have your own oil well. 7 qts X 14cars X 2x a year
That' a lot of OIL < LOL > |
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Re: Someone with a 96 or 97........
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And the valve covers holds ALOT of oil. (Hence the oil leaking) And the Purolator L30165 is MUCH larger than the now tiny stock ones. Seven quarts for the win! Also while I am on the soap box, if you use fully synthetic oil, and change it half as often (6000 miles vs 3000 miles)not only is it better for our green planet, but your engine will be better protected AND you will save money!
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Re: Someone with a 96 or 97........
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Better protected is the big question. Higher quality oils have more of the good additives that prevent wear. But they don't usually have twice the TBN so they will be more depleted than dino oil run for half as long. But so long as the acidity doesn't get too high, it won't be a problem. Where the synth may really make the difference is in its ability to maintain good viscosity over a wide range of temperatures and conditions. I have been reading more about this subject lately. Engines with tight bearing clearances like oils with higher viscosity at high temperature and high stress conditions. This allows for the oil to maintain a protective film on the bearings. If the viscosity is too low, wear will occur due to lack of lubrication. Also, the oil will shear which will cause the viscosity to get even lower over time which will, in turn, make the issue worse resulting in a downward spiral. Oils are tested for this property and the parameter is called HTHS. So why not go for a beefy thick xW50 oil then? Because the oil would not flow as well at lower temperatures and especially if the passages are tight. It is very hard to say how thick is thick enough without being too thick but the Germans did draw a line in the sand at an HTHS of 3.5. They want it to be at least that high. So I did some searching to see if I could find an oil with an HTHS of 3.5 but not too much higher which also had a high TBN so I know I can run longer oil change intervals, for the cost and green reasons. I also like the seal conditioning properties of high mileage oils and ester based oils. Finally, I need it to easily meet the cold temperature viscosity specification of a 5W oil for our cold winter mornings. This, as it turns out, is NOT an easy combination to get. Some folks at Nasioc like Rotella 5W40. The HTHS is 4 and is maybe a bit too thick. It also has very high magnesium. This has been known to leach some metals out of engine parts. My M1 5W30 high mileage oil is close to meeting all of the requirements but came just shy of the HTHS target of 3.5 with its 3.3 measurement. I concluded that I could get my seal conditioners and my HTHS value if I blended M1 5W30 HM with a little M1 0W40. I would end up with a great cold weather oil with an HTHS of exactly 3.5. It would also have some of the good metals (moly and zinc) you want from additive packages but not an excessive amount of any of them (especially magnesium). For those who are curious, the magic ratio is 4 parts 5W30 HM and 3 parts M1 0W40. And the 0W40 has a higher TBN to help the oil, hopefully, easily reach a 6000 mile OCI. If my car were to sit for long periods, I would lean toward Redline 5W30 ($$$) or M1 0W40 fortified with Lubegard motor oil protectant. Either of these choices provides materials (esters and/or moly) which are known to coat engine parts with a protective layer after the oil has drained away. They each have a slightly high HTHS of 3.8 but that is probably close enough to 3.5 to not be excessively thick. They both have nice high TBN values and will last well beyond 6000 miles in most cases. They both will do well in cold weather. They both will condition seals.
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Tony 1996 Polo Green Subaru SVX LSi, 168,XXX miles, Redline D4 ATF, Redline 75W90 gear oil, K&N HP-4001 Oil Filter, Mobil 1 5W50 FS (3qt) and 5W30 High Mileage (4qt) Oil Blend, Motul RBF600 Brake Fluid, AC Delco A975C Air Filter, NGK BKR6EIX-11 plugs, Centric Rotors, Power Stop Evolution Carbon Fiber Ceramic Brake Pads 2005 Gray Acura RL, 165,XXX miles, Redline D4 ATF with Lubegard Platinum Protectant, Mobil 1 5W20 High Mileage Extended Performance Oil 2009 Red Toyota Venza, 123,XXX, Mobil 1 5W30 High Mileage Oil 1992 Red Ferrari 348 ts, 82,XXX, Redline everything |
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Re: Someone with a 96 or 97........
Since my car sits for long periods between starts (2 1/2 months last time), I use Mobil1 0W40 European Car Formula,fortified with Lubegard Biotech motor oil protectant. It provides materials (esters and/or moly) which are known to coat engine parts with a protective layer after the oil has drained away rom the parts.
They each have a slightly high HTHS of 3.8 but that is probably close enough to 3.5 to not be excessively thick. They both have nice high TBN values and will last well beyond 6000 miles in most cases. They both will do well in cold weather. They both will condition seals. Even after moving the car after all that time, not one drop had dripped onto the floor. ,
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. Subaru Ambassador 1996 Polo Green LSi #216..138,100 miles...SOLD JFICX8659TH100216.....Date of Manufacture: November 16, 1995..... Fuji Heavy Industries..Ōta North Plant....Ōta City,. Gunma Prefecture, Japan In-Service Date: January 2, 1997 "The Pristine Green Polo Machine” First Polo Green on the Network First Clear front turn signals, JDM Alcyone hood emblem, rear panel, and BOXER engine cover on the Network (US) (2000) First 5000K HID factory fog lights (2007) First SVX JDM BBS wheels on a USDM SVX (2013) HID lighting (5000K) for headlight and H3 fog lights, PIAA SuperExtreme 120W high beams, rebuilt EG33 longblock, Cometic head gaskets, Phase II flexplate, AMR aluminum radiator with custom silicone hoses, 160A high-output alternator in aluminum-ceramic coated case, new design alternator wiring upgrade v.4, rare factory headlight protectors, refinished JDM BBS mesh aluminum wheels and custom, polished billet aluminum new hex center caps, LED grille mod, R1 Concepts high-carbon cryo slotted rotors, Akebono ceramic pads, Goodridge S/S braided brake lines, Smallcar Stage 1 shift kit, ThermalTech aluminum/ceramic-coated valve covers, Energy Suspension urethane front & rear swaybar bushings, Bontrager22 rear swaybar with QS Components Chromoly Teflon/Kevlar endlinks, "$15.00/5 minute" suspension mod. Hella Supertone horns, Custom stainless steel exhaust system with 2" headpipes, Magnaflow cats, AeroTurbine AR25 resonator /AWD "Bullet" muffler. R.I.P. 2010 Subaru Outback Limited 2.5 CVT...338,000 miles. Totaled by a 1,300 lb. COW March 4, 2016 2014 Hyundai Avante Limited ...178,000 miles. Actually quieter and smoother than the Outback 2007 Mazda Miata MX-5 PRHT...102,000 miles. Plenty of parts, service and windshields. 4th Registered Network member —2/21/2001 My NEW locker..I...My Email..I..Wikipedia/SVX . . |
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