"Cash for clunkers" program ADMINS request

Chris · #1 08-08-2009, 05:00 AM

I will not tell people what they can or cannot do with their cars or money. I do have a request for people pondering this "wonderful"

program.

I am posting this as information and as a kind request to prevent problems and or issues on the SVXWN. You can try to sell it here, or elsewhere, but don't lay the guilt trip and pretend to hold your car hostage or else sort of thing.

Just a note to people that might not have read the rules for the government program.

Clunker in question must run, have a clean and clear title, as well as proof of insurance and registration for the last 12 months
The trade in car must have an combined average MPG rating of 18 or worse (sadly the SVX is listed right at 18)
To get the minimum $3500 the money has to go towards a NEW vehicle with a combined average MPG rating of 4 more combined average MPGs than the selected SVX
To get the $4500 the selected vehicle has to get 10 or more miles per gallon
The only accepted EPA fuel ratings are found on fueleconomy.gov

So just as information to people that want get this miracle cash for clunkers, I ask a request and provide some additional insight. If you are hard set to follow through with this, request to be present and watch/listen as they drain the oil from the very limited production (only used in SVX) EG33 engine and replace it with sodium silicate. Then they will start the engine and run it at 2000+ RPMs until the engine seizes up (a requirement of the program with $15,000 penalties to authorized dealers that don't follow the rules). When you have witnessed and heard this take place, please DO NOT post your cars obituary. No SVX enthusiast here wants to read about SVX suicide.

When done, make sure you have chosen your eco-friendly replacement car. Keep in mind that in order to get the full $4500 credit, you must choose one that gets 10+ miles per gallon combined average over the 18 miles per gallon SVX. Thusly it must have a combined average of 28 miles per gallon or better. To assist you I have put together a small list of program approved cars in this rage:

Honda Civic hybrid, Volkswagon Jetta diesel, Toyota Yaris, Mini Cooper, Mini Clubman, Honda Fit, Toyota Prius(hybrid), Nissan Altima hybrid, Toyota Camry hybrid, Smart Fortwo, and the Volkswagon Sportwagen diesel. (none of these in my opinion have the character or sporty driving characteristicts worth me giving up my SVX [admins note/opinion)

So, again if the new car you are looking to buy is not listed on the fueleconomy.gov website with at least a combined average of 28 miles per gallon or better, then you will not get the programs advertised $4500. And if its not got an average of at least 22 miles per gallon, the car will not qualify for the $3500 program either.

Just additional information for the people that might think the government grows money on trees.

SSSVX · #2 08-08-2009, 05:25 AM

Thank you of the Post, Chris.

I hope the program will be stopped soon.

How strict/tough are they with the "combined mpg" qualification?
A few people I know, of course not SVX owners, want to take
advantages of this program. I just think their cars are not eligible
because they're 4 cylinders and I know their combine mpgs are also
few miles higher than 18mpg.

But in some of the killing-engines process videos, I did see some
of the old 91/92 Accords in the lot.

Honda doesn't have
V6s in those years for Accords. Accords generally get very good
mpg, too.

Manarius · #3 08-08-2009, 07:46 AM

Thanks Chris. That whole hostage/obituary business was getting obnoxious.

I mean seriously, why go on a SVX enthusiast website and tell them how you're trading the car in so it can be trashed and crushed.

TomsSVX · #4 08-08-2009, 08:07 AM

I guess some people will never grasp it... The government money being wasted, yes I said wasted, on this project is coming out of your pocket, your children's pocket and their children's pocket. YOU might think you are getting 4500 for your SVX but in reality, you are paying for them to destroy it... Good job, now that you have that practice down, go ahead and find the nearest overpass and kindly drive your shiny new tuperware container on wheels over the edge... Kudos America, you fail again

tom

SVXyGirl · #5 08-08-2009, 10:29 AM

Thank you Chris!

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Originally Posted by TomsSVX

Good job, now that you have that practice down, go ahead and find the nearest overpass and kindly drive your shiny new tuperware container on wheels over the edge... Kudos America, you fail again

tom

ROFLMFAO Thank you Tom...you could not have said it better.

NikFu S. · #6 08-08-2009, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SVXyGirl

Thank you Chris!

ROFLMFAO Thank you Tom...you could not have said it better.

Agreed....

ensteele · #7 08-08-2009, 04:00 PM

I am still having problems with the 18 mpg overall! I would have guessed that it would be in the low 20s.

They are very strict on the mileage rate. I know somone who wanted to do this and the car had an overall average of 19 and they would not take it.

JaySVX · #8 08-09-2009, 10:05 AM

Dunno, my SVX gets around 17-18 around town, and I am a pretty quick driver. On the highway it gets as high as 28mpg. I don't know how that's supposed to "average" to 18mpg.

JaySVX · #9 08-09-2009, 10:50 AM

Ooh here's one. Say you get the max $4500 for your SVX trade-in. Feeling pretty good about yourself huh? Well, you drive your shiny new car off the lot, and bam, it's worth roughly $4500 less. So, why not go ge a shiny new car that some other idiot just drove off the lot, but now is about to default on his mortgage and has to sell it, and buy that one. You pay $4500 less, at least, get to keep your svx, and have your shiny new car. Have cake & eat too? It's not rocket science.

ensteele · #10 08-09-2009, 11:14 AM

The great thing about this program is that we will now have a bunch of people who really can't afford a new car, buy one, and default on the loan. Does this sound farmiliar?

1986nate · #11 08-09-2009, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ensteele

The great thing about this program is that we will now have a bunch of people who really can't afford a new car, buy one, and default on the loan. Does this sound farmiliar?

+1, this program is a bad idea all around and can't really think of any true benefits for the American people.

SomethingElse · #12 08-09-2009, 12:30 PM

Im gonna throw a monkey wrench in this one

I think its odd nobody says anything about the one good thing that will come of this, its all about the negatives...Angry SVX people grrerrr

1986nate · #13 08-09-2009, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SomethingElse

I think its odd nobody says anything about the one good thing that will come of this, its all about the negatives...Angry SVX people grrerrr

And what is that Eric?

SomethingElse · #14 08-09-2009, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 1986nate

And what is that Eric?

Less pollution, NATE!

less dependence on foreign oil, less gas burning. etc

1986nate · #15 08-09-2009, 12:44 PM

Ahh, but you see, think of all the pollution created by the machines that are used to tear these cars apart, then the materials will either be left over or the energy used to separate metals/burn off the non-recyclable parts... all in all thats what their other aim is because people don't think of how much energy is used and pollution results from these cars being taken off the road.