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Old 11-11-2007, 06:03 PM
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WTB: Front control arms

I'm looking for a set of front control arms in good condition to use for my sway bar end link project. As near to new condition as I can get, I don't want to spend a whole ton of time cleaning the metal so I can weld it.

My plan is to weld a small bracket onto the control arm so I can use the rear endlink from an '05 Outback. By not having the endlink attach to the strut as the stock SVX does, I hope to be able to fit STI or Forester suspension.

Here's a picture of the idea:

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Old 11-17-2007, 06:58 PM
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Do you still need these ?

I have a parts car with these. No rust. Lemme know
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Old 11-17-2007, 07:53 PM
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Yup, still in the market. Let me know how much you'd like for them with shipping to Canada, area code K2J 5E3.
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Old 11-17-2007, 08:23 PM
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I like the idea... I would rather find a way to mount the STi hub on there though. not only will you have to grind down the SVX hub to get the thin strut braces on, with the STi hub, you can mount Brembos

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Old 11-17-2007, 08:31 PM
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Has anyone tried fitting an STi knuckle? If the STi suspension were used the only thing that would need to be made to fit is the ball joint, although there isn't anything "only" about that. The steering links, well those are just threaded tie rods. They can be made to work.
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Old 11-17-2007, 08:41 PM
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Has anyone tried fitting an STi knuckle? If the STi suspension were used the only thing that would need to be made to fit is the ball joint, although there isn't anything "only" about that. The steering links, well those are just threaded tie rods. They can be made to work.

Now you're thinkin... Only one way to find out

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Old 11-17-2007, 11:23 PM
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Now you're thinkin... Only one way to find out

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Hrmmm...The STI's use a completely different style of ball joint from us. Ours clamps into the knuckle, and has 3 bolts holding it to the control arm. The STI's clamps into the knuckle, and has a single bolt coming straight down which bolt to the arm. A bracket could be made to allow this to work, one with the three bolt holes to attach to out arms, and a single hole to accomodate the STI ball joint.
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Old 11-18-2007, 07:24 AM
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got a picture??

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Hrmmm...The STI's use a completely different style of ball joint from us. Ours clamps into the knuckle, and has 3 bolts holding it to the control arm. The STI's clamps into the knuckle, and has a single bolt coming straight down which bolt to the arm. A bracket could be made to allow this to work, one with the three bolt holes to attach to out arms, and a single hole to accomodate the STI ball joint.
Are the STI balljoint's like the same as the Legacy balljoints?
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Old 11-18-2007, 10:56 AM
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Yoink from NASIOC:



http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=787070
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might need to see if we can use the control arms too

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Old 11-18-2007, 02:14 PM
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I'm pretty skeptical about the control arms being swap-able. I was thinking it would be easiest to machine/fabricate an adapter, like this:

(I love having a 3D drawing program...)



The three small holes would bolt to the SVX control arm, and the large hole would fit the STi ball joint. Of course measurements would be critical to ensure we didn't screw up the cars alignment.
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I'm pretty skeptical about the control arms being swap-able. I was thinking it would be easiest to machine/fabricate an adapter, like this:

(I love having a 3D drawing program...)



The three small holes would bolt to the SVX control arm, and the large hole would fit the STi ball joint. Of course measurements would be critical to ensure we didn't screw up the cars alignment.


What program do you use. I have Solidworks 2006 here with Cosmos stress analysis for destructive testing of parts like that. I use it extensively when designing a race car chassis or suspension part for any of my customers vehicles. Very good program if you're in that line of work...

There's also a company called Emachine(www.emachineshop.com) that has a FREE download for their CAD software that allows you to design/CAD a part, select your material of choice, then email it right to them and they quote you an immediate price/machine time and the like. only issue with that is the software is very limited and has low computing power for complex shapes, dome/concave parts, and tapered transitions. Great for your basic stuff though...

You forgot to add a fillet transition lol

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Old 11-18-2007, 08:16 PM
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Fillet transitions, simulated fatigue testing, stress analysis...Not really something I can do. The program is called TrueSpace, and is strictly a 3D modelling/artwork/CGI program. I have Solidworks here somewhere...I think....completely legal copy of course

If you check in my old locker (sig link) there's a folder with some of the other stuff I've done.
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Old 11-18-2007, 09:02 PM
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You guys realize it may be much easier, cheaper, and definitely much safer to do this than you think. All you really need to realistically do is modify an existing SVX balljoint assembly via removing the ball stud from the cup, drilling the appropriate hole in the bottom, and installing a machined tapered insert into the ball cup to accept the STi ball stud taper with castle nut/cotter pin below. Machined spacers are far cheaper and easier to manufacture than a complete balljoint body....

Only reason I say this is that to produce an adapter with the strength of a forged OEM lower balljoint body via CNC is very difficult w/o some stress testing to be sure it's safe. There's an immense amount of force exerted on that little piece with a fair amount of leverage to do so as well. I've only been on this forum for about a month or so, but from what it seems most of you treasure your SVX's like I do my Porsches and don't want to have them wrecked inadvertently because of an improper part....
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