SVX Network Forums Live Chat! SVX or Subaru Links Old Lockers Photo Post How-To Documents Message Archive SVX Shop Search |
IRC users: |
#16
|
||||
|
||||
Re: Subaru BRZ Coupe Announced!
Quote:
Quote:
A 300-350 tuned EZ-series engine would be all the much better in this car, and could be considered a successor to the Mark II or Mark III Supra, compared to the RWD Celica or Corolla of those days. Sometimes a bit too much, is just enough. Quote:
It would be easier for a manufacturer to just build a coupe body on the Impreza's floor plan. Changing it from AWD to RWD drastically, as the FT-86 project has done, and then back to AWD would be a bit odd. Quote:
Fun to drive applies to the dry weather, when traction levels endorse having fun. Driving home in the snow is not the time to be seeking fun. That is when I seek control. AWD traction offers that control. A miata is not more fun when the conditions aren't good. it is cold, cramped, loud, and possibly too light. The things that make it GREAT in some conditions, make it miserable in worse conditions. Have you ever tried to drive a Miata in a big winter coat, and snowy boots? Not good. It isn't even all that easy to stow a winter coat in a Miata, without putting it in the trunk, and clamoring in and out of those tiny door openings, and low window seal. SVX is low at the roof, but not THAT tight to get in and out of, and you can drive it with boots on, and toss your coat in the back seat, with the plentiful heat from that EG33, being held in the cabin by a fixed roof and glass. BOTH Subarus that I have STOMP the Miata in all-weather capability and competence. And if I could only have one car... I would want an AWD performance coupe. Every ounce of competence in the winter, and still fun every other day of the year, too. Going the other way, with a VERY fun summer sports car, and then trying to extract more winter competence than it is capable of, in winter conditions, is not as positive a compromise. Especially if lack of control in those conditions causes damage to the car, in an accident, or a rough trip into the ditch. Those not in the snow belt may not have to make such compromises.
__________________
"What you plan, and what actually happens ain't exactly ever been similar..." ------------ 1992 Claret SVX. Rescued from certain destruction, and still on the road, where it belongs. Waiting for a bit of a makeover, when I can afford it. 2005 Garnet Red Pearl Legacy GT Limited 5-speed. - The late great Subaru sport touring sedan. 1999 Classic Red Miata, Preferred equipment package 5-speed. Fun, fun, fun, in the Sun, sun, sun. Last edited by BoxerFanatic; 08-23-2011 at 11:12 AM. |
#17
|
||||
|
||||
Re: Subaru BRZ Coupe Announced!
It's the page-long why-this-isn't-my-dream-car dead horse beating that gets everybody down. That's why you're getting heat on NASIOC. Better than three quarters of your first post on this thread is your driveway manifesto. The BRZ doesn't fit, and that's a bummer, but please don't grind it in here, too?
EDIT: This post was supposed to be up before the one above it. Into the abyss we go.
__________________
Disclaimer: The above post is on the internet. Last edited by LetItSnow; 08-23-2011 at 11:21 AM. |
#18
|
||||
|
||||
Re: Subaru BRZ Coupe Announced!
Oh, I get it.
Everyone else can post anything they feel like. Except that I can't post whatever I feel like because you don't want to see it. Thanks for helping me feel as ABSOLUTELY UN-WELCOME to be here, as I am unwelcome on NASIOC. DAMN. I was hoping SVX enthusiasts would be more civil and understanding of having views on cars that other people don't necessarily share, considering the choice to own and enjoy the SVX itself. Black sheep indeed. Back to your regularly scheduled programming, without me, if I am so damned inconvenient for you.
__________________
"What you plan, and what actually happens ain't exactly ever been similar..." ------------ 1992 Claret SVX. Rescued from certain destruction, and still on the road, where it belongs. Waiting for a bit of a makeover, when I can afford it. 2005 Garnet Red Pearl Legacy GT Limited 5-speed. - The late great Subaru sport touring sedan. 1999 Classic Red Miata, Preferred equipment package 5-speed. Fun, fun, fun, in the Sun, sun, sun. Last edited by BoxerFanatic; 08-23-2011 at 11:49 AM. |
#19
|
||||
|
||||
Re: Subaru BRZ Coupe Announced!
That would actually be pretty cool.
__________________
'94 Laguna Blue LSi ~159k.......JDM ultra short-geared 3.900 STi Version 7 6-speed w/ Cobb shortshifter, ECUtune 244,8.1mm/256,9.1mm i/e cams, group N motor mounts, '97 grille, JDM clear corners, Momo JDM Legacy GT steering wheel, apkarian's LED tails, silver STi BBS wheels, PWR radiator, redstuff pads f/r, drilled/slotted rotors, bontragerworks rsb #18, Koni/GC 450f/375r coilovers, Megan Racing adjustable lateral links, KMac c/c plates, Stebro exhaust, ECUtune 1v5, Optima battery in the trunk where it belongs. Turbo project '97 Ebony LSi ~137k #036.......Power mode mod, JDM clear corners, BBS wheels. AUX/pocket mod Now a mod "over there" ............Photo album |
#20
|
||||
|
||||
Re: Subaru BRZ Coupe Announced!
Quote:
i, for one, completely agree with you, but i think your approach is the problem people have - a couple posts could have adequately described your feelings about this car, but pages of "wall o' text" posts annoy people. its not going to be AWD, turbo, or H6, and i accept that and won't buy one. you should post on Facebook or write directly to Subaru, and maybe that might work. its obvious you are very knowledgeable about cars, but the beating of the dead horse is what gets people upset. it doesn't bother me, as discussion forums are for discussion and its not hard to scroll right by things i don't care to read.
__________________
Alan 1987 928 S4 (Black) SOLD! 1997 SVX LSi (Ebony) SOLD! 2005 Legacy GT (Silver) [Cobb Stg 2+] SOLD! 1987 928 S4 (Black) SOLD! 2005 Forester XT Premium (Crystal Gray Metallic) SOLD! 2008 Lancer Evolution X MR (Apex Silver) [Cobb Stg 1+] 2015 Outlander Sport 2.4GT AWD (Mercury Gray) 2013 G37xS (Obsidian Black) |
#21
|
||||
|
||||
Re: Subaru BRZ Coupe Announced!
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
If you need a machine that can handle a good Canadian snowstorm, hold big puffy winter jackets, and do other practical things then this is just not the car you want. If you want something that will be fun to throw through the corners and are willing to sacrifice some practicality then maybe it is.
__________________
Chris 92 Ebony Mica LS-L "A Rolling Restoration": 223,250 KM - Sleeping 2007 STi 6MT, Stance GR+ coilovers, PWR Rad, JDM hood badge, svxfiles 6000K HIDs, JDM Clear Corners, $15/15 min mod, $20/20 min mod, Energy Swaybar Bushings, Hella Supertones horns, Gold STi BBS rims, Group A lightweight crank pulley, A/C system removed, Custom header-back exhaust, Hybrid carbon/metal rear sway bar, restored headlights with CCFL halos 2008 Subaru Legacy Spec B - Diamond Grey Metallic - Sold 2020 Ram 1500 Longhorn - Red Pearl |
#22
|
||||
|
||||
Re: Subaru BRZ Coupe Announced!
AWD is easier in the snow.. I live where it snows.. My ass cant afford three sets of tires and I don't have a lift to change them every season..
AWD = better idea. Buuuuut that's just my opinion.
__________________
1992 Pearl White LS-L "Ruslana" #4946 - 180k on body, 95k on engine. Mods: ECU bead crush, 15 min mod, 20 min mod, drilled/slotted rotors & Axxis ceramic brakes, SS lines, 17" Evoke F1 wheels, XS-HF137 Sony Xplod speakers, 6000k HID's (lows & fogs), resistor mod, 1½" Sleek Spoiler mod, custom exhaust by svxfiles, '02 WRX aluminum racing radiator by svxfiles, Summit Racing 400# x 300# springs w/ Koni's by svxfiles, ClassGlass fiberglass hood /w scoop, Nevin's rear sway bar, '97 grille, phenolic spacers, custom LED interior lighting, custom paint. †"War doesn't determine who is right, only who is left"† Work to be done: Tinted windows, clear/LED tail lights, tailbar mod, "Power Mode" mod, Supertone horns, clear corners & headlight lenses, 2 pc splitters or custom bumper, Alcyone side skirts, TruSpeed Stage III SVX Intake, Hydra, 4.44 tranny swap, JDM auto folding side mirrors, engine rebuild, super charger, STi seats, bone leather interior /w SVX emblem, dash overhaul, SVX decals, paint (stock color). Total cost?: 22k At least it's going down..
|
#23
|
||||
|
||||
Re: Subaru BRZ Coupe Announced!
Quote:
However, every indication suggests that a turbo is not on the docket in the near future. WRX's successor that is still at least a year away, will bow and get limelight for at least a year before BRZ gets a turbo, IMHO. Maybe they'll try if the initial sales fall on their face like the Honda CRZ (which is getting in-house performance attention to try and recover), but I don't want to wish for that. The dedicated platform for RWD is fine, and is a fine underpinning for the RWD coupe. But I was saying it doesn't make sense to go from AWD -> RWD -> back to AWD again. BTW, the Subaru transaxle (5MT or 6MT) could be adapted to be a rear 2WD transaxle, either at the end of a torque tube from a front-mid-engine, or with a rear-mid-engine. if the chassis were developed that way, I don't think it would be markedly more expensive anymore. Modern manufacturing can be more flexible, especially in a case that the chassis is not shared with other sedans or anything else. My other point was that if Subaru had wanted an AWD coupe, they would have re-bodied Impreza, they would not add AWD back on to FT-86 after spending so much to engineer it out. Quote:
I still have that Miata, and it gets thrown through corners on T1-R summer tires in the warmer weather, where it belongs. The FR-S/BRZ doesn't compel me to trade a paid-off miata. that is much more fun in the warmer weather, likely to be still lighter, with SLA suspension, rather than macPherson, and more appealing when the top gets folded down, in said warmer weather. I am very glad that my SVX and my Miata are two different cars, for two different purposes, and as I said, if I had to have one, I'd want the AWD included. Think of it like the boy scout motto. Be Prepared. AWD is better preparation for when it isn't sunny, and isn't a big detriment when it is sunny.
__________________
"What you plan, and what actually happens ain't exactly ever been similar..." ------------ 1992 Claret SVX. Rescued from certain destruction, and still on the road, where it belongs. Waiting for a bit of a makeover, when I can afford it. 2005 Garnet Red Pearl Legacy GT Limited 5-speed. - The late great Subaru sport touring sedan. 1999 Classic Red Miata, Preferred equipment package 5-speed. Fun, fun, fun, in the Sun, sun, sun. |
#24
|
|||
|
|||
Re: Subaru BRZ Coupe Announced!
gm has been putting the front diff in and through the crankcase for several years now on the trailblazer line of cars. not that it is a good idea or even works well, but it can be done.
|
#25
|
||||
|
||||
Re: Subaru BRZ Coupe Announced!
Quote:
__________________
'94 Laguna Blue LSi ~159k.......JDM ultra short-geared 3.900 STi Version 7 6-speed w/ Cobb shortshifter, ECUtune 244,8.1mm/256,9.1mm i/e cams, group N motor mounts, '97 grille, JDM clear corners, Momo JDM Legacy GT steering wheel, apkarian's LED tails, silver STi BBS wheels, PWR radiator, redstuff pads f/r, drilled/slotted rotors, bontragerworks rsb #18, Koni/GC 450f/375r coilovers, Megan Racing adjustable lateral links, KMac c/c plates, Stebro exhaust, ECUtune 1v5, Optima battery in the trunk where it belongs. Turbo project '97 Ebony LSi ~137k #036.......Power mode mod, JDM clear corners, BBS wheels. AUX/pocket mod Now a mod "over there" ............Photo album |
#26
|
||||
|
||||
Re: Subaru BRZ Coupe Announced!
This is also an interesting solution:
Porsche Cayenne. I guess it would introduce some torque steer, especially if it's not at least a bit rear-biased.
__________________
'94 Laguna Blue LSi ~159k.......JDM ultra short-geared 3.900 STi Version 7 6-speed w/ Cobb shortshifter, ECUtune 244,8.1mm/256,9.1mm i/e cams, group N motor mounts, '97 grille, JDM clear corners, Momo JDM Legacy GT steering wheel, apkarian's LED tails, silver STi BBS wheels, PWR radiator, redstuff pads f/r, drilled/slotted rotors, bontragerworks rsb #18, Koni/GC 450f/375r coilovers, Megan Racing adjustable lateral links, KMac c/c plates, Stebro exhaust, ECUtune 1v5, Optima battery in the trunk where it belongs. Turbo project '97 Ebony LSi ~137k #036.......Power mode mod, JDM clear corners, BBS wheels. AUX/pocket mod Now a mod "over there" ............Photo album |
#27
|
|||
|
|||
Re: Subaru BRZ Coupe Announced!
I think there would be a bit of a problem getting the axles out through the cylinder heads.
Harvey.
__________________
One Arm Bloke. Tell it like it is! 95 Lsi. Bordeaux Pearl, Aust. RHD.149,000Kls Subaru BBS wheels. 97 Liberty GX Auto sedan. 320,000Kls. 04 Liberty 30R Auto Premium. 92.000kls. |
#28
|
||||
|
||||
Re: Subaru BRZ Coupe Announced!
I was thinking through the oil pan. Although the exhaust manifolds would probably still be in the way.
__________________
'94 Laguna Blue LSi ~159k.......JDM ultra short-geared 3.900 STi Version 7 6-speed w/ Cobb shortshifter, ECUtune 244,8.1mm/256,9.1mm i/e cams, group N motor mounts, '97 grille, JDM clear corners, Momo JDM Legacy GT steering wheel, apkarian's LED tails, silver STi BBS wheels, PWR radiator, redstuff pads f/r, drilled/slotted rotors, bontragerworks rsb #18, Koni/GC 450f/375r coilovers, Megan Racing adjustable lateral links, KMac c/c plates, Stebro exhaust, ECUtune 1v5, Optima battery in the trunk where it belongs. Turbo project '97 Ebony LSi ~137k #036.......Power mode mod, JDM clear corners, BBS wheels. AUX/pocket mod Now a mod "over there" ............Photo album |
#29
|
||||
|
||||
Subaru BRZ Coupe
Came across this:
http://mippin.com/mip/pct.jsp?p=367955087_127 Subaru BRZ Coupe named Subaru has named its take on the Toyota FT-86 Coupe the BRZ, and confirmed it for a Frankfurt debut Subau BRZ By Jack Rix 23rd August 2011 Subaru has confirmed that a 'technology concept' of its 2+2 coupe – co-developed with the Toyota FT-86 – will debut at Frankfurt. And the firm has revealed that the production car will be called BRZ. The letters BRZ stand for Boxer engine, Rear-wheel drive and Zenith - which confirms serveral facts. Firstly that, just like the Toyota FT-86, it will be rear-wheel drive not four-wheel drive and secondly it will feature a Boxer engine under the bonnet. There are no precise engine details at the moment, but it's expected to use the same 200bhp 2.0-litre four-cylinder powerplant as the Toyota FT-86, which shoud mean a 0-62mph time of around seven seconds and a top speed of 140mph. Higher performance versions are expected further down the line. The technology concept in Frankfurt will be called the Subaru BRZ Prologue - Boxer Sports Car Architecture II. The II refers to the fact that a wire frame model and the image shown here were already revealed at the Geneva show earlier this year. Subaru claims production is sheduled to begin in Spring 2012, just a few months after its Toyota stablemate is slated to hit showrooms. |
#30
|
||||
|
||||
Re: Subaru BRZ Coupe
__________________
Chris 92 Ebony Mica LS-L "A Rolling Restoration": 223,250 KM - Sleeping 2007 STi 6MT, Stance GR+ coilovers, PWR Rad, JDM hood badge, svxfiles 6000K HIDs, JDM Clear Corners, $15/15 min mod, $20/20 min mod, Energy Swaybar Bushings, Hella Supertones horns, Gold STi BBS rims, Group A lightweight crank pulley, A/C system removed, Custom header-back exhaust, Hybrid carbon/metal rear sway bar, restored headlights with CCFL halos 2008 Subaru Legacy Spec B - Diamond Grey Metallic - Sold 2020 Ram 1500 Longhorn - Red Pearl |
|
|