building engines and turboing 2 svx's woot woot!

[Johnybeas]

Ok so as I've illuded to in a few other threads, the time has come that my dreams will become a reality. Myself and another member will be starting on building two svx's and turboing them, with end result goals upwards of 500 hp in the end. So the two svx's here's what the plan is parts wise:

Johnybeas 1992 SVX LS-L
Tranny: 02 wrx 5mt (already installed) built with ppg group N rally gears
ECU: Hydra Nemisis II (already installed)

Superru 199? SVX
Tranny: STi 6mt
ECU: Hydra Nemesis II

The rest of the parts we will prob both do most are decided but some are still up in the air a few more months of research saving and rouning up parts to go still but here's the list as of today...

Turbo parts

Turbo: garrett gt4088r
Blow off valve:hks ssq
Boost controler: aem
Waistgate: tial 38mm
Intercooler: perrin stealth
Muffler: flowmaster 80 series 3in. One or two?
Catalitic converter: flowmaster or magnaflow?
Piping: 2 1/2 in. Downpipe 3in. Up pipe 3in equal length headers, 3 in. turbo back exhaust. 3 1/2 in tips or bigger

Engine build parts

Spark plugs: ngk
Injectors: rc 1000cc
Fuel pump: denso 300lph
Cams: custom
Rods: eagle h-rods
Pistons, rings, and pins: cp pistons 8.5:1
Bearings: acl race bearings
Spacers: outlaw engineering phenolic spacers
Head bolts and studs: arp
Head gasket: cometic

[Johnybeas]

For my particular turbo I'm contemplating doing an a/r of about .80 for a faster spool for auto xing

[superru]

Got your txt, but i was passed out! ya that looks like a great list of stuff to get!! i'm working on the exhaust piping now, i'm trying to get some 314 stainless from a buddy. i'm going to pull my engine in about a month so i need something to play with while i'm awaiting that 6spd..

[Crazy_pilot]

Good luck guys! Can't wait to see some them come together.

[Sov13t]

this is going to be interesting

[Johnybeas]

Originally Posted by superru

Got your txt, but i was passed out! ya that looks like a great list of stuff to get!! i'm working on the exhaust piping now, i'm trying to get some 314 stainless from a buddy. i'm going to pull my engine in about a month so i need something to play with while i'm awaiting that 6spd..

hit me up when you go to start pullin it I'd love to help out.

[STeeL25T]

Good luck guys. I was gunna say I have some bearings I could sell you, but if you split parts with each other you won't have any short or left over.

[Johnybeas]

contemplating RC Engineering 1000cc injectors because they are a few bucks cheaper than the 550cc STi ones from Subaru after my discount.

[Johnybeas]

so based on cozykat's numbers and my research this is what I've found different

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Engine Rebuild Projected Costs (your prices may vary):
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Pulling Engines (Fluids, new silicone vaccume lines, replace damaged parts, etc tbd)
Subaru Gasket Kit ($245.53 My price from my source, slightly cheaper than hers)
Eagle-H Rods ($465.00?) ( haven't checked prices yet)
Crankshaft ACL Bearings ($200.00?) (hope prices are still same)
CP 8.5:1 Forged Pistons w/ pins and rings ($948.00 / $1896 for cole and I if our prices are the same as theirs were)
ARP Studs (long/short) ($320.00)
Outlaw Phenolic Spacers ($115.00)
Custom Exhaust (TBD)
Cometic Head Gasket Set ($190.00)
Hydra + wideband (optional) (if we can still get one for cole mine cost 1800 with base maps but still need to get wideband)
STI injector set (550cc) (don't know where she found um for so cheap but my price out was about $96 a piece after my discount from subie but found RC Engineering 1000cc for $94)
Cams (reground?? or some brand new custom ones from sliverspear $1850)
Walbro Fuel Pump 255lph (found one on ebay for $87)
Machine work: (TBD)
Stock Crank - Polish/Balance (TBD)
Stock EG33 Block - Bore to 98mm (TBD)
Heads - Resurfaced/Check Align Bore (TBD)
Intake/Exhaust Valve Seals (39.36/45.96)
Valve Job(TBD)/Replace Valve Guides(TBD)
Balance Engine (with pistons, rods, crank) (TBD)

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Turbo Parts Projected Costs (your prices may vary):
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Turbo: garrett gt4088r or other 40 series (1500-1800 on ebay)
Blow off valve:hks ssq (111.00 on ebay)
Boost controler: hks? Or other
Waistgate: tbd
Intercooler: perrin stealth (~$700-800)
Muffler: flowmaster 80 series 3in. One or two? (TBD)
Catalitic converter: flowmaster or magnaflow? (TBD don't know what we'd get yet)
Piping: 2 1/2 in. Downpipe 3in. Up pipe 3in equal length headers, 3 in. turbo back exhaust. 3 1/2 in tips or bigger (TBD)

[STeeL25T]

I decided not to buy the Outlaw spacers, because I have questions about how much good they will do in a forced induction application.

And I'm for sure buying my injectors from these guys, check their prices http://www.deatschwerks.com/catalog/

[DarknessofDeath]

phenolic spacers are debated.
i considered going with them but my tuner says they are prone to leak.

deatschwerk injectors are the common injectors that subaru guys use for bigger turbo applications as well.
a new set of injectors is getting really popular as well. id1000, id2000 and id2200. dont remember the manufacturer of these. but a lot of guys are dropping deatschwerks to go over to these now

as for a boost controller. i'm using a prodrive. the grimmspeed one is getting really popular right now.

[Phast SVX]

I'm a big fan of progression. I would turbocharge the car first on the stock engine, to be sure you have all the kinks worked out. Then you can move on to building the engine.

[STeeL25T]

I'd probably have done that if my car ran when I got it, but it needed a rebuild anyway.

[SilverSpear]

Originally Posted by STeeL25T

I decided not to buy the Outlaw spacers, because I have questions about how much good they will do in a forced induction application.

And I'm for sure buying my injectors from these guys, check their prices http://www.deatschwerks.com/catalog/

All of them are the same, what quality difference you guys think is there?

Check on Nasioc, a lot of people sell brand new parts for cheaper than vendors, especially nowadays...

[Johnybeas]

In talking with some of the local Subie guys they suggested that possibly with that much horsepower that the walbro 255lph wouldn't be enough fuel and that we'd be starving the motor, thoughts??