ECUtune Stage 2v6 ethanol, e85, flex fuel, turbo, supercharger, force induction

[$ gest24 $]

Originally Posted by shotgunslade

Now that we have all explored the ins and outs of ethanol at various concentrations, could we get back to the initial thrust of the thread. The Chip. What, when and how much?

+1 for getting the thread back on track... more info about the chip, less about E85.

[TomsSVX]

yes the stage 3 has larger injectors... Is LAN going to write software to use them outside of stage 3... No

Tom

[SVXRide]

Originally Posted by TomsSVX

yes the stage 3 has larger injectors... Is LAN going to write software to use them outside of stage 3... No

Tom

-Bill

[TomsSVX]

trust me... the stock injectors will flow enough... If they don't. Run on gasoline thats all I think I am done posting for the evening to all a good night

Tom

[shotgunslade]

I would like to hijack this thread back from the hijackers to return to the original thrust. Thank you. If we don't return to talking about the chip, I'm going to explode this vest full of dynamite that I'm wearing.

[NikFu S.]

Originally Posted by shotgunslade

I'm going to explode this vest full of dynamite that I'm wearing.

I hope you have a permit for that.

[longassname]

to answer your previous questions if i remember them correctly.

Price:
Stage 2v6 is the same price Stage 2v5 was. Of course since there are now owners of previous versions of the stage 2 software with z32 maf meters I added a much cheaper upgrade option for those of you who fit into that category. For previous stage 2 owners the upgrade is $129. Before anyone who doesn't fit into that category tries being slick let me say when I say stage 2 owners I actually mean purchasers. To get the $129 price you have to be listed in our records as a stage 2 purchaser.

How do you get it:
order from our website. Wait a few days though. We aren't shipping it till our prototype tester verifies the e85 code is working correctly. I'll post in here when he does.

Originally Posted by shotgunslade

I would like to hijack this thread back from the hijackers to return to the original thrust. Thank you. If we don't return to talking about the chip, I'm going to explode this vest full of dynamite that I'm wearing.

[$ gest24 $]

Originally Posted by longassname

to answer your previous questions if i remember them correctly.

Price:
Stage 2v6 is the same price Stage 2v5 was. Of course since there are now owners of previous versions of the stage 2 software with z32 maf meters I added a much cheaper upgrade option for those of you who fit into that category. For previous stage 2 owners the upgrade is $129. Before anyone who doesn't fit into that category tries being slick let me say when I say stage 2 owners I actually mean purchasers. To get the $129 price you have to be listed in our records as a stage 2 purchaser.

How do you get it:
order from our website. Wait a few days though. We aren't shipping it till our prototype tester verifies the e85 code is working correctly. I'll post in here when he does.

Yay! I'm more than likely going to get it. Esp. if it will fix the 6mt stall issue.

[benebob]

Originally Posted by Beav

Uh, y'all are absolutely wrong regarding E85. Vehicles that are rated to use it have vast differences. Ethanol is highly corrosive and more than a few rubber hoses are required. The metallurgy of the entire engine is different.

The 'gasohol' of the '70s and '80s was never supposed to exceed 3-7%, yet many distributors kept adding more until they began receiving complaints. Then they backed it down a point or two but even that was still enough to cause problems. Usually they ended up around 9-11%. That was enough to eat the zinc from carburetors, turning them into junk. Carbs were made from base metal with zinc which filled the pores. Ethanol/methanol attacked the zinc and made the carbs porous.

Now imagine what 85% ethanol is going to do to pistons, camshafts, etc. Hoses will be the least of your problems.

Plus doesn't ethanol have a lower BTU per gallon than gas so don't you need more of it in the chamber to simply equal the same power as a normal gas engine? I know it has a higher octane rating but that really doesn't mean much if it doesn't create as much bang.

[shotgunslade]

Gest24:

Do you have a stall issue? If so, there is a temporary fix, until you get your new chip. Basically pull the air lines out of the cold start air valve, and put a manual air valve on it. Young Tom made that mod on mine, and I haven't had a stall since. Occasionally, I get a fast idle, but it soon goes away, and it is much less obnoxious than a stall at the wrong time.

[$ gest24 $]

Originally Posted by shotgunslade

Gest24:

Do you have a stall issue? If so, there is a temporary fix, until you get your new chip. Basically pull the air lines out of the cold start air valve, and put a manual air valve on it. Young Tom made that mod on mine, and I haven't had a stall since. Occasionally, I get a fast idle, but it soon goes away, and it is much less obnoxious than a stall at the wrong time.

Yeah, Tom and I hooked that up before he left. I even "tamper seal" on the valve so I can see if it slips.

[longassname]

By that logic you could barely make any power with nitromethane.

Originally Posted by benebob

Plus doesn't ethanol have a lower BTU per gallon than gas so don't you need more of it in the chamber to simply equal the same power as a normal gas engine? I know it has a higher octane rating but that really doesn't mean much if it doesn't create as much bang.

[$ gest24 $]

Mike, if we buy the upgrade chip do we have to send back our old chip to you? Curious since its my first time doing something like this.

Edit: Just ordered mine, lol.

[longassname]

No. I'd rather you not go selling your 2v5 but if you do oh well. It's that persons loss. They will eventually want 2v6 and their purchase from you won't earn them any discount towards it.

Thanks for the order. Now if we can just get guinea pig to hurry up with his guinea pig thing we can ship it.

Originally Posted by gest24

Mike, if we buy the upgrade chip do we have to send back our old chip to you? Curious since its my first time doing something like this.

Edit: Just ordered mine, lol.

[$ gest24 $]

Originally Posted by longassname

No. I'd rather you not go selling your 2v5 but if you do oh well. It's that persons loss. They will eventually want 2v6 and their purchase from you won't earn them any discount towards it.

Thanks for the order. Now if we can just get guinea pig to hurry up with his guinea pig thing we can ship it.

I wasn't going to sell it, I was going to keep it in the family and put it in my mom's Pearl. I just need to get a z32 MAF (Or talk her into buying one). It'd be a nice B-day present for her and get me one step closer to making a clone of my pearl.