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i'm not going to give up, FORD ROCKS!
Kelli
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Previous owner of the Princess Pearlie "Dimples" as of 8/6/03 1992 LS-L Pearl 124k "Yeah, that thingy!" owner of the new 1992 LS-L Pearl "Susie" I am a pessimistic optimistic. I think the worst is going to happen, that way when it does, i don't feel as bad, but if the best happens, i am twice as happy. |
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-Evil Jeff '03 WRX Wagon, World Rally Blue '94 SVX LSi, Barcelona Red '89 XT6 4WD, Grey & Rust (and legally, an '01 Outback VDC skankmobile) |
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http://www.pontiac.com/bonneville/sp...=models_prices That link has the specs to all the trims. The third one down is the GXP. See for yourself. The only discrepancy is in power... the brochure i have says 285hp, the Pontiac site, as you will see, says 275hp. I think it's actually 285hp because that's what the 4.8L V8 puts out in all other applications. Also, according to both Car&Driver and Road&Track, the upcoming redesign of the Impala will put it on the same platform as the new Bonneville (which only makes sense), and the new Monte on the same platform as the new GP (again, fits perfectly in GM's line of thinking). But then the magazines have been wrong in the past, so that's why i said supposedly, just to be safe. |
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I don't know, Ford has put some cars together I'd like to own. Boss Mustangs, SVO Mustang, Merkur XR4Ti, SVT anything, GT40, and of course this:
http://www.subaru-svx.net/photos/files/rally/4783.jpg But I do agree, almost all the Fords I have owned have been pretty bad cars for me.
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i'll vouch for escorts. i had a few friends with escorts for quite sometime with odometers exceeding 200k. very little money was dumped into them and they were definitely abused. one liked to do 360's in a big parking lot when it rained (go figure it was in a escort wagon). by 360's i don't mean donuts i mean speeding and making the car slide in a circle.
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Dan,
You sure started something. Larry III |
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Pontiac likes to downplay the FWD nature of its cars, since it is supposed to be the performance division of GM. FWD and performance do not necessarily go hand-in-hand. Just look at BMW, Mercedes, Porsche. According to this link, its FWD like it's been for years. http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/ov...07&src=LeftNav Besides, the Northstar engine has been, until the release of the new XLR, a strictly FWD-based engine design. The NEXT generation of the Bonneville may be RWD, but the current one is not. Since the link above is for a 2003, I added this one as well. http://comp.autosite.com/2002autosui..._Numvehicles=1 Todd
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Down to none Last edited by wawazat??; 12-01-2003 at 04:52 AM. |
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Thanks Larry. I told you we need a thread to blow off steam and stay one big happy family. I think it's running 85-90% anti-ford (as it should be). I'll post more when I have some time later. Keep it up anti-oval brigade!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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My family had a 95' Windstar, until it broke down with only 65k on our trip to Vermont (while in Vermont). The problem was the head gaskets, which had already been replaced. Ford gave us like an extra $2500 towards the purchase of a new Ford, so we bought a Exploder. I told them to get a Focus, since they were damn cheap, but my dad didn't listen to me. My mom got sick of it within two months and sold it for a used Maxima.
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Hmmmmm. Can't join this conversation. All my Ford stories are good ones . . . 'cept when I straightened out a 90 degree curve and drove my 72 Gran Torino Sport, with the 351C and Holley 4 bbl into a ditch . . . which whipped the wheels to the right . . . down a fenceline . . . cleaning out the three cows (two calves, then MAMMA!) . . . which sent me airborne . . . across the road . . . and into a tree. Got out of that one with seven stitches in my nose. Gotta love seatbelts (should've put on my shoulder harness). My first car was a 64 Ford Fairlaine 4-Door. My next two cars were Ford (Mercury) products -- 74 Mercury Capri 1600, and an 80 Capri RS Turbo.
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Pearl '92 LS-L 179K (Historic 1st 5-speed SVX) Mods: 5-speed, 4.11's, Group-N motor mounts, dual Magnaflows, cone air filter, Kenwood MP-228 CD/Receiver, white-faced gauges, '97 grill, custom window tinting. Ebony Mica '92 LS 80K Oct 2002 - Dec 2004: Victim of theft. She served me well. You can tell the lack of craftsmanship by the wrinkles in the duct tape. |
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FORD acronyms
Hmmm...seems like a good time to break out the acronyms for what FORD really means. Feel free to add to the list
First On Recall Day Fix Or Repair Daily Found On Road Dead Fast Only Rolling Downhill Fords Only Run Downhill Full Of Rust & Decay F'd Over Rebuilt Dodge Factory Ordered Rebuilt Dodge Fornicating Our Retarded Designs (quoted by a former ford engineer) Favored Over Rat Droppings Fought Off Recall Demands For Obviously Retarded Drivers Firestone Overstates Reliability Data Four Old Rusted Doors Ford Owner Really Dumb Fabrication Ordinaire Reparation Dispendieuse (French for ordinary fabrication expensive repairs.) For Old Rickety Drivers And of course my favorite: Fag's Only Real Desire Note: I intentionally left out "First On Race Day"
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Pearl '92 LS-L 179K (Historic 1st 5-speed SVX) Mods: 5-speed, 4.11's, Group-N motor mounts, dual Magnaflows, cone air filter, Kenwood MP-228 CD/Receiver, white-faced gauges, '97 grill, custom window tinting. Ebony Mica '92 LS 80K Oct 2002 - Dec 2004: Victim of theft. She served me well. You can tell the lack of craftsmanship by the wrinkles in the duct tape. |
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Without going to much into detail because of pending legal issues, I was personally involved with NHTSA that has lead to a full scale investigation over fords. I can't give out model info as this is an on going investigation. The focus has had 11 full scale recalls, 5 government safety inquries, and 6 product safety notices. Look it up. I can't remember a bigger p.o.s. ever!!! So far 3 fords, the focus, the escape, and the crown vic (interceptor) have been recalled for the wheels falling off while in motion!!!!!! That is comforting! To answer an earlier post, GM sells more full size pick-ups then ford if you add the Chevy and GMC together. If you have been following world events, Toyota is on the verge of passing ford as the world's number 2 automaker behind GM. I have narrowed down my vehicle purchases to Subaru, Nissan, and Toyota. They were the only 3 I shopped recently. I would also consider Honda. I base this on Consumer Reports ratings as they are non-biased. I'll never forget car and drivers mid size shoot out in which they painted the taurus as a decent vehicle, contrary to consumer reports. Of course the shoot out contained 3 pages of ford ads within the 6 pages of the story!!!!!!!
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where i live i see more fords then anything on the road...i see most old f-series trucks when it come to older vehicles, that and old hatchback civics. from my experience, ford is decently cheap to repair, and in some instances easy enough that i can do it myself. i don't know the prices of new cars because i think that buying a brand new car is almost pointless because of the amount you loose just by signing papers. my probe had far less problems then my svx, and was a hell of a lot cheaper to fix. i like the gm company (chevy and such)
all cars have their good points and bad points, personally i think the new f-series is ugly and the new toyotas are nice looking...but i still think american cars are better, maybe just my american pride screaming out Kelli
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Previous owner of the Princess Pearlie "Dimples" as of 8/6/03 1992 LS-L Pearl 124k "Yeah, that thingy!" owner of the new 1992 LS-L Pearl "Susie" I am a pessimistic optimistic. I think the worst is going to happen, that way when it does, i don't feel as bad, but if the best happens, i am twice as happy. |
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