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Old 10-03-2007, 03:04 PM
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So you not only can't read but obviously can't realize I was the one who brought up that a 5 speed isn't typically as fast as an auto in a drag. Did you see the thread starter posting his 1/4 mile times in an auto of any ratio? Didn't think so. Learn to read. Then you can speak. Until then why are you not studying words.

A 4.11 auto in the same car will be faster in a 1/4 than a 4.11 manual. A 4.44 auto in the same car will be faster in a 1/4 than a 4.44 manual. A 3.53 auto in the same car will be faster than a 3.53 manual. A 3.9 auto in the same car will be faster than a 3.9 manual.

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That's not it... *shakes head* I already know that an auto with the same gearing as a manual will put better drag times down. That isn't what's being compared in this thread, though. You can't just magically change someone's specs just to make your argument work out. It's a stock auto versus a 5spd. The gearing is different. Therefore it makes sense that the 5spd got better times.

In general you would be correct, but this thread isn't "in general." This thread has specifics, which you constantly ignore.

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Old 10-03-2007, 04:09 PM
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then why is it that my old 4.11 manual was seconds off the pace in relatively stock form... even faster than OT's heavily modified 4.44? I am talking back when all it had was an exhaust and a dryer duct intake?? I mean I understand the logistics of the whole auto/mt debate BUT why is the SVX such a difference??

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Old 10-03-2007, 04:39 PM
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So you not only can't read but obviously can't realize I was the one who brought up that a 5 speed isn't typically as fast as an auto in a drag. Did you see the thread starter posting his 1/4 mile times in an auto of any ratio? Didn't think so. Learn to read. Then you can speak. Until then why are you not studying words.

A 4.11 auto in the same car will be faster in a 1/4 than a 4.11 manual. A 4.44 auto in the same car will be faster in a 1/4 than a 4.44 manual. A 3.53 auto in the same car will be faster than a 3.53 manual. A 3.9 auto in the same car will be faster than a 3.9 manual.

Kept simple sentences for ya. Hope it helps.
this generalization really only holds true on a built stalled auto. with a slushbox like the svx has i wouldnt be suprised if someone can shift an manual faster. Not to mention it is a simple fact that there is more drivetrain loss and the manual has the ability to launch at higher rpm than the stock auto. which = faster 60'= quicker ET
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So you not only can't read but obviously can't realize I was the one who brought up that a 5 speed isn't typically as fast as an auto in a drag. Did you see the thread starter posting his 1/4 mile times in an auto of any ratio? Didn't think so. Learn to read. Then you can speak. Until then why are you not studying words.

A 4.11 auto in the same car will be faster in a 1/4 than a 4.11 manual. A 4.44 auto in the same car will be faster in a 1/4 than a 4.44 manual. A 3.53 auto in the same car will be faster than a 3.53 manual. A 3.9 auto in the same car will be faster than a 3.9 manual.

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Wow, and Jason was the one who got banned?
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Old 10-03-2007, 07:57 PM
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I think we'd better watch it, or this thread is definitely going to get locked

How about this --

An automatic with shifting characteristics and gearing equal to a manual trans will produce faster 1/4 mile times (eliminates human error with clutch and shifts).

An automatic with sloppy shifting characteristic - compared to a manual - and gearing identical to a manual will probably be slightly slower in the 1/4 mile (but more consistent).

An automatic with sloppy shifting and higher (lower numerically) gearing than a manual will almost always be slower than a manual with lower (higher numerically) gearing

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Thank you, bill. It was hurting to read the nonesence after a while.5mt is lighter.Against a built auto it has that single advantage

Anyhow, yeah...I bet if you fixed that egr problem, and mabey worked on shifts a little bit, you should be able to run much faster. Someone with similar modifications who has been at the strip recently could hopefully chime in and let you know what kind of times you should be putting down, so you have a basis of how well your car / you are running
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Old 10-04-2007, 06:01 AM
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Wow, and Jason was the one who got banned?
Yeah maybe you should be to for ignorance. JK. I wish Jason was still here and that he resolved his problems with a client he blew up at properly but he isn't and he didn't to my knowledge. I gave you the sources, if you don't believe me read a magazine, its pretty well documented. Only exceptions I've seen are for the WRX 2.0 which needs a specific powerband with its turbo set up. Everything else pretty much conforms to autos being faster.

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Old 10-04-2007, 06:07 AM
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this generalization really only holds true on a built stalled auto. with a slushbox like the svx has i wouldnt be suprised if someone can shift an manual faster. Not to mention it is a simple fact that there is more drivetrain loss and the manual has the ability to launch at higher rpm than the stock auto. which = faster 60'= quicker ET
No it holds true to virtually every Subaru made (that is unless Subaru sends built stalled autos for car mags to test). Read your car and driver's or motor trendsfor the past 15 years and you'll realize you're wrong. Comparable subies the auto is faster than the stick virtually every time. Reality is well reality.
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Old 10-05-2007, 10:06 AM
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a little while before I sold my ebony, I ran a 15.3 in it, keep plugging away, you'll get those times down.


me...I'll be busy running 12.8's @ 110 with my rex

actually with me driving probably more like 13.1's, but who's complaining?
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me...I'll be busy running 12.8's @ 110 with my rex

actually with me driving probably more like 13.1's, but who's complaining?
That must be the fastest rex on the planet with all of 660ccs max! A WRX is not a REX! Doesn't even come close!
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Old 10-06-2007, 12:33 AM
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ok ok fine...my wrx

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