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Old 06-27-2006, 09:42 AM
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This is who I was lined up against in the morning session - Brian Burdette. Really nice guy, has been autoX'ing for 13 years (yes, his car has number 15 on it and the time sheets say 75...timing messed up his number ).

Those 315s make the 245s on my car look like economy spares!



-Bill
p.s. he did have to roll the insides of the fenders so the tires don't rub.
Holy cow! Those 315 meats look sinister! Talk about mechanical grip!!!
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Old 06-27-2006, 09:44 AM
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Corbeau race seats should be ready by the end of the week - having them recovered to match the gray interior. They should shave around 80-90 lbs

Red top battery is already in the trunk.

Other stuff in work, just have to check to make sure it's legal first...

-Bill
Nice! I'm looking forward to seeing what you do to your car in the coming months!!
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Old 06-27-2006, 10:21 AM
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Ben,
So true! Hey, I might have some brand new VictoRacers in 245/45-16 available...interested? (yeah, I know you're looking at going to bias plys )
-Bill
p.s. was the guy running the Porsche at FedEx they same guy you "slayed" last month?

No, he's on vacation but we're looking to run somewhere in later july so we can play with our 1st actual alignment prior to our next event (states on the 6th) and also see if we like our new exhaust.

No more 245s we just bought a set to get us through the year then we're off to real bias plys so our alignment won't matter.
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Old 06-27-2006, 10:25 AM
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No, he's on vacation but we're looking to run somewhere in later july so we can play with our 1st actual alignment prior to our next event (states on the 6th) and also see if we like our new exhaust.

No more 245s we just bought a set to get us through the year then we're off to real bias plys so our alignment won't matter.

Alignment? I didn't know you guys knew how to spell the word
So, how did you end up setting the car up?
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Old 06-27-2006, 10:56 AM
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No, he's on vacation but we're looking to run somewhere in later july so we can play with our 1st actual alignment prior to our next event (states on the 6th) and also see if we like our new exhaust.

No more 245s we just bought a set to get us through the year then we're off to real bias plys so our alignment won't matter.
Why not come down to Cumberland on Saturday, July 29th for the airport autoX?

More info can be found here: www.nationalroadrally.com

Meet thread is here: http://www.subaru-svx.net/forum/showthread.php?t=33012
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Old 06-27-2006, 11:41 AM
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Alignment? I didn't know you guys knew how to spell the word
So, how did you end up setting the car up?
-Bill
p.s. Happy Birthday!!
Of course I know how to spell the word. I have spell check. Problem is when you're still settling on a suspension you kinda have to be made of money to keep it aligned right.

I'm leaving it up to our alignment specialist (races a 2002 and is usually vying for ftd fpd in her in our area). I'm thinking 4-5.5ish up front with as much toe out as we can get. 2.5-3 in the rear with some toe in even if he needs to break out the BFH. Then it'll be time to move the power steering to the passenger cockpit for an extra 5hp.
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Old 06-27-2006, 11:43 AM
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Why not come down to Cumberland on Saturday, July 29th for the airport autoX?

More info can be found here: www.nationalroadrally.com

Meet thread is here: http://www.subaru-svx.net/forum/showthread.php?t=33012

That's a thought but remember we were there last year and you didn't show . Its pricey to trailer that far (probably about $150 in gas for the weekend) and we're thinking that we wanna see Tom in his halloween suit not his birthday suit!

We're looking at either there, Rypken or maybe fedex. Would like it maybe the weekend earlier as that doesn't leave much time for adjustments between then and the 6th.
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Old 06-27-2006, 12:05 PM
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That's a thought but remember we were there last year and you didn't show . Its pricey to trailer that far (probably about $150 in gas for the weekend) and we're thinking that we wanna see Tom in his halloween suit not his birthday suit!

We're looking at either there, Rypken or maybe fedex. Would like it maybe the weekend earlier as that doesn't leave much time for adjustments between then and the 6th.
I never promised to show up for that meet last year - I had a conflict with a family vacation in Orlando. I've already signed up and paid my $30 for the 7/29 event. If you can make that'll be great, but I have to admit that ~$150 in gas for the weekend is kinda steep.
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Old 06-27-2006, 02:17 PM
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Of course I know how to spell the word. I have spell check. Problem is when you're still settling on a suspension you kinda have to be made of money to keep it aligned right.

I'm leaving it up to our alignment specialist (races a 2002 and is usually vying for ftd fpd in her in our area). I'm thinking 4-5.5ish up front with as much toe out as we can get. 2.5-3 in the rear with some toe in even if he needs to break out the BFH. Then it'll be time to move the power steering to the passenger cockpit for an extra 5hp.
NICE! With BillStock moving more and more to being a single-use vehicle, I'm looking at moving to at least 2 degrees all around, for starters. Can't wait to drive your car again
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Old 06-27-2006, 02:20 PM
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That's a thought but remember we were there last year and you didn't show . Its pricey to trailer that far (probably about $150 in gas for the weekend) and we're thinking that we wanna see Tom in his halloween suit not his birthday suit!

We're looking at either there, Rypken or maybe fedex. Would like it maybe the weekend earlier as that doesn't leave much time for adjustments between then and the 6th.

Ron Katona Memorial event @ FedEx on the 30th! Come on down and drive a real course!
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What exactly is the difference between a bias ply, and a radial tire. And why would alignment not matter on the bias ply?

and why would you want that much toe out? that could get scary under braking
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Old 06-27-2006, 03:35 PM
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Can't wait to drive your car again
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On an open course with no brick grandstands in the way!

As for fed ex on the 30th again, kinda close to our next event. With so many changes at once, no ability to street it for a few quark laps and no time afterwards to make final adjustments that may not work. Besides, if we want a real event State college is closer and I know we should be able to reach the century mark there.

Oh and where states is the lot is VERY comp to Fed Ex from what I'm told only it has better grip. Don't know what the regs are for going but I would doubt its limited to PAers. Only about 40 minutes north of York at the most!
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What exactly is the difference between a bias ply, and a radial tire. And why would alignment not matter on the bias ply?

and why would you want that much toe out? that could get scary under braking

Not an expert on tire design but the simplified answer is a radial tire has steel radials holding it all together while a bias ply is simply corded.

A radial tire offers the opportunity for a very stiff sidewall so the tire doesn't "roll" in a turn as much (hence the need for a more camber to keep you off the outer corner while turning). It really came into its own in the 60s as a street alternative to bias ply

Bias Ply offers the better grip of the two but doesn't last as long and is more prone to blowouts, rolling off the rim etc. They are what almost every car made prior to the mid 60s came with. The sidewall is not nearly as stiff so when it rolls its kinda like rolling a doughnut (the kind you eat). Provide you have tread on the top of the sidewall you simply roll into more grip. More of a roll then bit type of design so it takes some getting used to for those who don't remember driving their 4500lb detroit iron around with 'em on. A motorcycle tire is a decent example as it is round and has tread on the sidewalls. To my knowledge there aren't any "real" race tires, as in non-street legal slicks that aren't bias plys.

As for toe out up front. It helps greatly with turn in. Most street autoxers tend to run about a degree give or take. Only real affect is it becomes kinda twitchy on the highways. I think I remember reading the max you could get out of most subarus was about 2.5 so we'd probably settle around 2 as if one side goes to 2.5 the otherside might only go to 2.3 degrees.
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