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Old 10-13-2012, 05:15 PM
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Re: Mid Engine SVX concept.

Explain: you planed to leave the rear glass in but now you are not? What is the plan? Hinge it? Or no glass?????.
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Old 10-13-2012, 05:21 PM
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Re: Mid Engine SVX concept.

Not sure what I am going to do yet, will update when I know the plan.
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Old 10-13-2012, 05:23 PM
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Re: Mid Engine SVX concept.

This is the best thread ever! I wish you the best of luck. Please tell me you might be planning on something like a Delorean or mr2 style rear bonnet.
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Old 10-14-2012, 12:39 AM
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Re: Mid Engine SVX concept.

Had a slack day, Engine is out and gearbox is out, need to clean and strip the front engine bay of the things I don't need.

So the car will have a 6 speed fitted as well as the standard engine fitted to start with. Then I will replace the engine with a higher power one aiming to get to the 10k.

The ulimate tyre we would like to fit on the rear would be 295/35/20in 255/40/20in on the front. It might be that we have to settle for 19in but lets see how we go.
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1995 - SVX 700,000 K Mine, DMS Struts to lift car 2in. Tyres Wrangler Silent Armor 235/70R16, PBR Radiator. 6 speed with DCCD and R180 rer diff, Heavy duty top strut mounts front and rear. Speedo correction box fitted. New stero (gave up on the old one). Back seat removed and 2 spare tyres fitted for desert driving. ECUTune SC sitting in the box for the next SVX.
1992 - SVX 255 K Wife (Want to stay Married so not allowed to fit SC)
1992 - SVX Pearl with black roof race car roll cauge etc ready to race. Ex Tasman Targa car.
1995 - SVX Green low k mint condiation.
1995 - SVX Rally car, ex Matts car. Now to be used on track.
1992 - SVX red & Black being converted to Mid Engine.
1995 - SVX Red 143,000 bit rough.
Owned 5 others Subaru back to a 1974 1400 GSR.
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Old 10-14-2012, 08:17 PM
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Re: Mid Engine SVX concept.

Interesting work.

Are you using a 6 speed with the rear drive disconnected? I know they make RWD kits, but do they make a FWD only kit? would a Porsche transaxle or even a Liberty FWD box work? Get some custom ratios made later?

Don't forget you'll need to get some custom front springs and probably shocks too...as much as you'll need uprated rears.

Will be watching.

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Old 10-14-2012, 08:26 PM
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Re: Mid Engine SVX concept.

Hi Matt,
A couple of the guys are using the Subaru gearbox in kit cars so as a result companies now make adaptors that blank off the back output shaft. Only catch its a grand.

Front axles, I had intended to install the DMS's and change the spring rate down till I get it right.

Do you think that will work is it what you mean???

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1992 - SVX 255 K Wife (Want to stay Married so not allowed to fit SC)
1992 - SVX Pearl with black roof race car roll cauge etc ready to race. Ex Tasman Targa car.
1995 - SVX Green low k mint condiation.
1995 - SVX Rally car, ex Matts car. Now to be used on track.
1992 - SVX red & Black being converted to Mid Engine.
1995 - SVX Red 143,000 bit rough.
Owned 5 others Subaru back to a 1974 1400 GSR.
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Old 10-15-2012, 02:49 AM
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Re: Mid Engine SVX concept.

That'll work fine. Might even pay to ask Jamie what rates he recommends after you've weighed it at the end.
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Old 10-18-2012, 02:43 PM
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Re: Mid Engine SVX concept.

As a result of the recent investigation it seems that the only way I can get 295 / 35 / 20in rims on the back is to change the suspenion to a better design. The removal of the strut will give more tyre room under the guard.

Has anyone used a suspenion simulator before, if so what type.
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1995 - SVX 700,000 K Mine, DMS Struts to lift car 2in. Tyres Wrangler Silent Armor 235/70R16, PBR Radiator. 6 speed with DCCD and R180 rer diff, Heavy duty top strut mounts front and rear. Speedo correction box fitted. New stero (gave up on the old one). Back seat removed and 2 spare tyres fitted for desert driving. ECUTune SC sitting in the box for the next SVX.
1992 - SVX 255 K Wife (Want to stay Married so not allowed to fit SC)
1992 - SVX Pearl with black roof race car roll cauge etc ready to race. Ex Tasman Targa car.
1995 - SVX Green low k mint condiation.
1995 - SVX Rally car, ex Matts car. Now to be used on track.
1992 - SVX red & Black being converted to Mid Engine.
1995 - SVX Red 143,000 bit rough.
Owned 5 others Subaru back to a 1974 1400 GSR.
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Old 10-18-2012, 03:07 PM
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Re: Mid Engine SVX concept.

This seems like a simple simulator that is free.
http://mysite.verizon.net/samitchell/Suspen2/
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1995 - SVX 700,000 K Mine, DMS Struts to lift car 2in. Tyres Wrangler Silent Armor 235/70R16, PBR Radiator. 6 speed with DCCD and R180 rer diff, Heavy duty top strut mounts front and rear. Speedo correction box fitted. New stero (gave up on the old one). Back seat removed and 2 spare tyres fitted for desert driving. ECUTune SC sitting in the box for the next SVX.
1992 - SVX 255 K Wife (Want to stay Married so not allowed to fit SC)
1992 - SVX Pearl with black roof race car roll cauge etc ready to race. Ex Tasman Targa car.
1995 - SVX Green low k mint condiation.
1995 - SVX Rally car, ex Matts car. Now to be used on track.
1992 - SVX red & Black being converted to Mid Engine.
1995 - SVX Red 143,000 bit rough.
Owned 5 others Subaru back to a 1974 1400 GSR.
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Old 10-18-2012, 03:10 PM
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Re: Mid Engine SVX concept.

Where did your 20 inch tyre decison come from?
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Old 10-18-2012, 03:44 PM
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Re: Mid Engine SVX concept.

Good question Matt, please correct me if I am dreaming, but due to the rear drive only I need to get the biggest tyres I can on the back. Porsche are running 19 & 20in, also I wanted to be able to get bigger brakes in there.

I would like to here your thoughts,
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1995 - SVX 700,000 K Mine, DMS Struts to lift car 2in. Tyres Wrangler Silent Armor 235/70R16, PBR Radiator. 6 speed with DCCD and R180 rer diff, Heavy duty top strut mounts front and rear. Speedo correction box fitted. New stero (gave up on the old one). Back seat removed and 2 spare tyres fitted for desert driving. ECUTune SC sitting in the box for the next SVX.
1992 - SVX 255 K Wife (Want to stay Married so not allowed to fit SC)
1992 - SVX Pearl with black roof race car roll cauge etc ready to race. Ex Tasman Targa car.
1995 - SVX Green low k mint condiation.
1995 - SVX Rally car, ex Matts car. Now to be used on track.
1992 - SVX red & Black being converted to Mid Engine.
1995 - SVX Red 143,000 bit rough.
Owned 5 others Subaru back to a 1974 1400 GSR.
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Old 10-18-2012, 03:52 PM
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Re: Mid Engine SVX concept.

You know I support your ideas...but to my humble thinking, sometimes we have to accept compromises.

To hear you say that the only way the 20 inch tyres will fit is to redo the suspension makes me think you aren't compromising.

In using an SVX shell as a donor, it's a compromise...you get a car that's on 4 wheels that then needs modifications to do what you want. And maybe 17 or 18 inch wheels would work better? Remember, V8 touring cars run 17" wheels with 375mm discs...admittedly they run 11" wide wheels, but you could potentially get the width on an 8" or 9" wheel without needing to mod the suspension too much and lose the benefits that chosing the SVX as a donor has given you.

My thinking is that as soon as you start changing suspension, custom making them etc...would not the 962 kit car you were looking at become a better more viable proposition?

I realise, to an SVX purist, that's not what you want to hear of course! And you of anybody could pull it off.

Just my thoughts...

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Old 10-18-2012, 04:10 PM
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Re: Mid Engine SVX concept.

Matt your point is right, thanks for bring me back to the ground, I appricate. Currently I know I could fit 235 wheels by 20in as that overall outter size is what I have on my car (235/R70/16).

The limit is the 235 as the clearance between the strut coils and the guards are a issue.

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1995 - SVX 700,000 K Mine, DMS Struts to lift car 2in. Tyres Wrangler Silent Armor 235/70R16, PBR Radiator. 6 speed with DCCD and R180 rer diff, Heavy duty top strut mounts front and rear. Speedo correction box fitted. New stero (gave up on the old one). Back seat removed and 2 spare tyres fitted for desert driving. ECUTune SC sitting in the box for the next SVX.
1992 - SVX 255 K Wife (Want to stay Married so not allowed to fit SC)
1992 - SVX Pearl with black roof race car roll cauge etc ready to race. Ex Tasman Targa car.
1995 - SVX Green low k mint condiation.
1995 - SVX Rally car, ex Matts car. Now to be used on track.
1992 - SVX red & Black being converted to Mid Engine.
1995 - SVX Red 143,000 bit rough.
Owned 5 others Subaru back to a 1974 1400 GSR.
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Old 10-18-2012, 04:49 PM
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Re: Mid Engine SVX concept.

Yeah you'll do better keeping some tyre side wall rather than having to wrap massive wheels with liquorice strips.

Plus you'll probably have a better selection of tyres if you keep the profile up a bit.

If anything, I'd focus on width instead. Maybe a subtle wide-body treatment to the guards while you're in there cutting things up?

Either way, still one of the awesomest projects I've come across for a while.
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Old 10-18-2012, 07:16 PM
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Re: Mid Engine SVX concept.

Go with a custom made coil over set up, the coils, as well as the entire thing is smaller and lighter it will allow you to run wider tires with less - offset(to keep from tire rub on fenders)

I believe the guy that owned icings pearlie managed to fit 20 inch rims on it so the size can be done I would NOT run too much side wall as it will cause flex and in extreme cases fold over. You will have more weight on those rear wheels and with weight transfer and hard cornering you dont want to lose a tire.
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