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Re: Interior swap blues
And Conn. is tough on DMV regs Maybe PA is impossible then. I found if you are honest go to DMV and say what do I do they will help . . Like said above don't get caught with miss use of plates, worse than driving with no plate for sure . Either leave it blank or do as said above .
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The point is by federal law a vehicle must have a visable vin. His car does not. It can not legally be registered, sold, or parted out in its current state. There are many quasi legal and not so legal ways to get it registered but under federal law a car must have a visable vin. Now is the time to recover his losses or explore the legal options for registering the car, there is no real good solution that doesn't have long term consequences.
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Sometimes contentious topics can reveal good discoveries. Federal VIN requirements and FREE VIN history searches are available here http://www.vehicleidentificationnumb...r_content.html
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I don't mean to kick a dead horse here but, I see nothing in the regulations that would preclude one from having an honest VIN plate fabricated as long as it meets the 4 mm spec. Low cost, no reason to panic.
Gene, the thread killer.
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Thanks everyone for making such a big deal out of this. Originally I was just blowing off steam, but now I can see where it is a legitimate issue in a car that gets so many parts swapped around.
Much as I might like to go the Dr. Evil route, I think I'll take my chances with the legal one and take my chances with the results. http://www.dmv.state.pa.us/forms/veh...ingForms.shtml I'll update the thread when I have more.
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I don't see anything in the rules that say you can't stamp out a replacement plate with the honest VIN at 4 mm height. Like they do for dog tags. No reason to panic.
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WDB Did u ever get the car registered . We are waiting to hear how you made out .
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No updates of any consequence. The local garage hooked me up with a contact in the state police, but he has not returned my calls. I will probably end up doing it without his help.
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What's it been like 4 months
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if you are going the legitimate route (it sounds like you are) then you would be better off calling a tow company. they would charge you a little money but they can usually fast track a new vin pretty quickly, some even offer this as a regular service.
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Now you sound like my wife.
Thanks for the suggestion, I'll check it out.
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Hopefully I don't shock anyone too greatly but I actually *did* *something* about my VIN issue last week. Actually I started a month or so ago, when I filled out the MV-41 paperwork for getting a new VIN and mailed it in to the state.
They sent it back. I figured the part that had to be filled out by a state police officer would be handled by them, which in hindsight was probably not too swift on my part. So I called the nearest barracks, eventually got connected with the "vehicle fraud" trooper, and he came out and took a look. He filled out the paperwork verifying that the car was eligible for another VIN. He also told me that I could just get classic car tags and be done with state inspections altogether. Woot! Except he's wrong. Antique tags exempt a car from state inspection, but cars with classic tags still face annual inspections. They're just exempt from emissions testing. So it looks like I'll be getting a brand new VIN courtesy of the Commonwealth. I'll keep you all updated.
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OK, final update on this topic.
Clif notes: the car is PA legal, inspected, and on the road! Hooray! Longer version: I reconnected with the state trooper who filled out the MV-41, and told him I was going for the reissued VIN. He sent in his paperwork, I sent in mine. A few weeks later I got back:
The incorrect VIN from the interior swap is still up on the dash. I think I'll put a piece of tape over it or something. No matter what, the next time a police officer takes an interest in the car there's going to be some 'splainin' to do. In retrospect: if I knew then what I know now, specifically that the dashboard VIN had to match the title in order to get the car inspected, I would have gotten a VIN plate made and attached it to the dash myself. At any rate, I'm finally, finally! able to drive the SVX without sticking to back roads and looking over my shoulder the whole time. Now I can really get to know the car. I'm looking forward to it.
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