Water Pump, Pulley, Crank & Cam seals

[svxsubaru1]

Originally posted by red95svx



SVXsubaru1, we aren't talking about a first gen Legacy. Tons of those were built and parts are easy to come by. We're also not talking about aftermarket or reman parts. And the pulley he mentions may be a crank pulley, not an idler.


Dave

I just said that becasue the parts are pretty similar, those were prices for new, and the companies i use are sube supliers. Even if it was aftermarket Dealership sube parts are rip offs. You can get a part for as good or better quality for usally less than half the price.

Originally posted by svxsubaru1


I just said that becasue the parts are pretty similar, those were prices for new, and the companies i use are sube supliers. Even if it was aftermarket Dealership sube parts are rip offs. You can get a part for as good or better quality for usally less than half the price.

1) The Legacy and SVX parts are similar, but not the same.

2) Chances are the companies you use are not Subaru suppliers.

3) I worked for aftermarket companies for years and although SOME of our stuff wasn't bad, the vast majority of it was far inferior to genuine parts (be it Chevy, Ford, or Subaru). In my experience, most of our customers shopped at our store for a "cheap #ss" fix for their car so they can sell it. Our "Lifetime Warranty" mufflers were good for about a year. Our "Lifetime Warranty" brake pads were good for about 8 months. Our domestic reman alternators were so poorly built that they were almost guaranteed to leave you stranded somewhere. Sure, you could get free replacements....but you still had to replace the part yourself, or pay someone else to do it. Do you want to pay someone every 8 months to replace your $20 pads? I don't. I 'd rather pay more for a good set of pads and not worry about them for the next couple of years.

Like I said, some of our stuff wasn't bad. We did sell name-brand wheel bearings and belts, and our foreign reman alternators were very good. But that was about it.

Cheap parts are not always the best way to save money in the long run.....esp. when you consider towing bills from dead alternators or repeat installation fees for fast-wearing cheap brakes.

Just my two cents from my years in the parts business. Feel free to disagree I must end my rant now so I can watch "Finding Nemo". I hear it's funny.


Dave

Genuine Subaru Reman Parts (axles, starters, alternators, calipers) I have had to do a warranty claim on in the past three years: 0

[SubaruPartsGirl]

Usually crank and cam seals are done with a timing belt replacement. With the water pump you should also do a new thermostat and gasket since it is right up against it. Here are some discounted parts prices for you.

Water Pump - $86.62
Water Pump Gasket - $2.04
Thermostat - $9.80
Thermo Gasket - $2.66
Cam Seals - $6.42/ea
Crank Seal - $5.74

If you let me know what pulley you need I could give you the price for that also.

Perhaps if you told the dealership you are getting the work at that you can get the hook-up on parts they may try to cut a deal with you. You can always buy the parts yourself and bring them in.

Jackie
Wilkins Subaru
410-689-8061
subparts@wilkinsautomotive.com

[svxsubaru1]

Originally posted by red95svx






2) Chances are the companies you use are not Subaru suppliers.

3) I worked for aftermarket companies for years and although SOME of our stuff wasn't bad, the vast majority of it was far inferior to genuine parts (be it Chevy, Ford, or Subaru). In my experience, most of our customers shopped at our store for a "cheap #ss" fix for their car so they can sell it. Our "Lifetime Warranty" mufflers were good for about a year. Our "Lifetime Warranty" brake pads were good for about 8 months. Our domestic reman alternators were so poorly built that they were almost guaranteed to leave you stranded somewhere. Sure, you could get free replacements....but you still had to replace the part yourself, or pay someone else to do it. Do you want to pay someone every 8 months to replace your $20 pads? I don't. I 'd rather pay more for a good set of pads and not worry about them for the next couple of years.

Like I said, some of our stuff wasn't bad. We did sell name-brand wheel bearings and belts, and our foreign reman alternators were very good. But that was about it.

Cheap parts are not always the best way to save money in the long run.....esp. when you consider towing bills from dead alternators or repeat installation fees for fast-wearing cheap brakes.

Just my two cents from my years in the parts business. Feel free to disagree I must end my rant now so I can watch "Finding Nemo". I hear it's funny.


Dave

Genuine Subaru Reman Parts (axles, starters, alternators, calipers) I have had to do a warranty claim on in the past three years: 0

I know alot of aftermarket stuff is not made with high quality as a priority, but the parts guy i buy from has been using certain suppliers for longer than i have been born in some circumstances. He only buys the best quality parts, if he gets complaints he stops using the supplier, or parts company. Alot of his bussness is run on his reputation he doesent own a giant Napa like network of stores that buys parts at the lowest price, he really dosent make a huge amount of money money from his parts either, alot more is made from his machine shop which does a great job.

[Bizarre]

Man am I tired of being right. I knew these guys would screw up my car. Deliberately or accidently.

Got the SVX back today after replacing h2o pump, crank/cam seals, and a pulley.

Now I get a very light rythmic ba-bump ba-bump low frequency sound coming from the engine. At idle or at idle in neutral I can feel it lightly thru the shifter.

Popped the hood and the alternator is whining like crazy. ALT is two weeks old (very new). I'm thinking belts are too tight. But would that cause a low bass drum section to join the SVX symphony under my hood?

Good thing was a friend works there and I got a free loaner, while they take another crack at it.

Anyone else have this light two beat rhythm coming from their SVX?

Adrian

[svxpert]

check the power steering mount, maybe they forgot to tighten it up. didt you go to Matt Slap to have the service done? in new castel?

Finding Nemo was funny!






I have a new water pump for $72 if anyone is interested. New gaskets, seals and thermo available cheap too.


Dave

[Bizarre]

It is indeed Matt Slap in Newark, DE. I will not bad mouth them any further until I hear back from them today. (I was p--sed off 'cause I sat in traffic for an hour).

Hopefully, it is the PS mount or something simple like that.

Nucar was in New Castle and is no longer a Subie dealership.
Castle in New Castle is now the Subie Dealership in that area.

[Bizarre]

Well, maybe you read my thread before about getting new
water pump, pulley, and crank and cam seals.

Went in to pick up beloved SVX yesterday.
Greeted with horrible alternator whine, and two beat
vibration coming from engine. Told them to fix it.

Pick her up today and I have the following new damage to report.
(You can see the lovliness in my newly created locker.)
1. Cracked timing belt housing mount. Left side
2. Ridiculous nut, washer, and bolt holding it on.
3. Damage to my passge. side door where they slammed it on my
brake Club.
4. All 4 top mounts for the double cooling fan are overtorqued and broken.

I guess they did not like making them go back and fix their crappy half-**sed repairs.

Needless to say I am furious. I generally expect to get my car back in slightly better condition than when I bring it in. $800 bucks this cost me. The GM was there and tsk tsked at the damage I was pointing out. "Oh, I've never seen this in 20 years". (Oh please)

Larry was right. Shoulda gone to that guy in New Town Square or the guys in Jersey. That's what I get for rushin' and not talking to everyone here first.

Oh, and they tried to con me into new boots (ergo new axles).
I bet they smashed them with a shop knife. Would not surprise me after this.

I am now going to fight these bozos for a total refund.

Fuming,
Bizarre

Wow. Just, wow. I'm not even sure what I would say/do because I would be so pissed. I would definitely fight it in the end, though. Good luck.

(Does it seem to anyone that more and more Suby dealerships keep going downhill?)

[dcarrb]

Not that it'll make you feel any better, but my SVX's fan and timing belt cover mounts looked pretty much the same when I bought the car (and it, too, had been serviced by a Subaru dealership). Less-than-artful wrench turning, certainly. But such engineering begs failure.

Good luck in securing that refund.


dcb

[Bizarre]

For further updates on this fiasco please go to thread:

"A (Matt) Slap in the face."

Wish me luck team.

Biz

[AlcyoneDaze]

my car has had leaky cam and crank seals since I bought her in november, and it seems to be the time to fix the problem (Im getting tired of having to add a quart every two weeks). Instead of starting a new thread, I just figured I'd resurrect this one:

SO; all I need to do this repair is:


Water Pump - $86.62
Water Pump Gasket - $2.04
Thermostat - $9.80
Thermo Gasket - $2.66
Cam Seals - $6.42/ea
Crank Seal - $5.74
(and a new timing belt too, right?)

and I want to put a lightweight underdrive pulley on there while I'm at it.

Is there anything else I should take care of while Im in there, or is this basically it?

thanks in advance for your replies

[TomsSVX]

yes a new timing belt too...good luck and I hope you don't hit any snags like I did at Reading

Tom