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Randy-
Glad to see the interest growing in a formal organization. When I started a thread on this a couple of weeks ago, it got only a couple of replies. I will reiterate what I posted there - I feel that a formal organization is absolutely necessary, for all the reasons mentioned above, plus a couple. One of the major concerns I have about an informal organization, such as we have now, revolves around the very medium that we are using to communicate with at the moment. While Chris deserves all credit possible for establishing this site, what will happen if: 1. The demands on his time, and his priorities change? He's putting a lot of time and effort into this, but what will happen if he is no longer able to donate the rather massive amounts of time that maintaining this site requires? With a formal club, maintenance and administering the club web site would become a budget item. That way, it wouldn't be dependent upon the good will of an individual. And, Chris, please don't misread this. I'm not for a moment doubting your dedication and willingness to do this. I'm just thinking of various contingencies. 2. A formal club could probably benefit from an at least-part time staff person, just to keep track of things. 3. Incorporation - an important consideration, from at least two points. First, liability issues arising from officially sponsored events. For example - we have a meet. A parade of SVXs is passing through Wherever, USA. A gawker loses his focus, and runs his new $50K SUV into a tree, and tries to blame us. Second, tax issues. All the other items mentioned are great ideas - a year long calendar of events, organized voice to lobby SOA, newsletter, etc. As you mentioned, I have had some experience in drafting constitutions and by-laws for organizations. I was on the committee that drafted the constitution for the Marshall University chapter of AFT, I've worked on the constitution of our local neighborhood association constitution (incorporated as a not-for-profit), plus a couple of others. I am currently working on a draft of a mission statement, and will begin a draft constitution shortly. I'll post these either in this thread, or the other. It may be of value to keep this thread as the discussion, and place documents in the other. That way, interested parties can pop over to one thread to read the drafts, then back to the other to discuss and comment. I'm suggesting this as an interim procedure. I've been thinking about this a lot, and have a whole bunch of other little notions brewing. But, bottom line, I think it's an absolutely necessary step to take. Let's keep kicking it around here, and at the April meets. Meanwhile, I'll keep working on drafts, and post them when available. Please excuse the somewhat lengthy post, but as I said, I've been thinking about this a lot lately.
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bill Green 95 SVX - Cleo Green 97 Outback - Maxine Red F-150 Extended Cab Long Bed - Big Boy Even the best monkey sometimes drops his banana. |
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<<Phast! Wah, wah, wah! Hook up with Colin Riley, he's driving from WI to the Smoky Mountains meet. >>
Colin Riley - aka montypython, aka criley53115
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Colin 96 SVX LSi 85K (Sold) 04 Legacy Sedan 121K 06 Chevy Malibu 71K 13 Outback 0K |
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Randy (and all), I'm completely with you on the idea as I've already expressed. I'm sure it will be discussed in Reading (in between Tequila sipping and zebra bikini contests). Lets also talk in the Smokies (in between the Kentucky vs. Tennessee whisky debate).
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Colin 96 SVX LSi 85K (Sold) 04 Legacy Sedan 121K 06 Chevy Malibu 71K 13 Outback 0K |
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Bill, can't wait to see the drafts. I've also been involved with drafting by-laws, constitutions and setting NFP organizations. Alls I can say is, "better you than me."
I appreciate your continued dedication to this effort. Thank you for your time. Meanwhile, boys and girls, it's time to take this thing seriously (well, as I said, not "stuffed shirt, starched panties seriously -- and, yes, Steve YOU can still wear 'em if you want to). I know I'm something of "the class clown," but, I would really like to see this happen. Speak up now, or don't grumble later -- what do you want to see in your "Official Subaru SVX Owner's Club?"
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Randy Johnson 3rd Registered Member 02-21-2001 First Member to Reach 10,000 Posts First to arrive at the very first Reading Meet Subaru Ambassador 1992 SVX PPG Pace Car Replica 110+k 1993 White Impreza L 240+K miles 2001 Legacy Outback Limited Sedan 250+K miles 2013 Deep Indigo Pearl Legacy 3.6R 49+K miles "Reading is my favorite Holiday" Mike Davis -- at Reading VI |
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Ya!
Ya! thats a great idea! So im sure colin would love to come down and get me out of school and excuse me from my homework and tests! Ya the school thing and me only being 17 has some effect on me going to...how id love to go. MY freind greg (svxboy) is thinking about taking off to the saint louis meet..and if there was ever a meet i was possibly being able to attend it would be that one. Also id like to organize a mini meet up here this summer in WI....there are a couple guys around in the club from our area and it would be fun for a one day-er. Soud good to you Colin? Also...where exactly are you from madison?
later
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~Phil Teal 1992 Subaru SVX Turbo - Sold in May 2011 to peace-frog. Last edited by Phast SVX; 03-20-2001 at 09:56 PM. |
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Phast! I'm sure you've "ditched" for things much less important than an SVX meet! Tell ya what, I'll write the note and send it to Colin and he can pick you up. Here's the note:
Please excuse my darling son from school. I think he's going to be sick. Thank you. PhastSVX's Mom Think it'll fly?
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Randy Johnson 3rd Registered Member 02-21-2001 First Member to Reach 10,000 Posts First to arrive at the very first Reading Meet Subaru Ambassador 1992 SVX PPG Pace Car Replica 110+k 1993 White Impreza L 240+K miles 2001 Legacy Outback Limited Sedan 250+K miles 2013 Deep Indigo Pearl Legacy 3.6R 49+K miles "Reading is my favorite Holiday" Mike Davis -- at Reading VI |
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Colin, I shudder (Oh, hell -- I shouldn't say "shudder" in an SVX forum -- that's bad juju) to think what we'd come up with between a bottle of Jack Single Barrell and a bottle of Blanton's. "We find these truths to be self evident -- so why in the hell are we botherin' to (hic) explain 'em -- amen!"
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Randy Johnson 3rd Registered Member 02-21-2001 First Member to Reach 10,000 Posts First to arrive at the very first Reading Meet Subaru Ambassador 1992 SVX PPG Pace Car Replica 110+k 1993 White Impreza L 240+K miles 2001 Legacy Outback Limited Sedan 250+K miles 2013 Deep Indigo Pearl Legacy 3.6R 49+K miles "Reading is my favorite Holiday" Mike Davis -- at Reading VI |
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<<Colin? Also...where exactly are you from madison? >>
Phast - check my profile. But I'm from Delavan.
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Colin 96 SVX LSi 85K (Sold) 04 Legacy Sedan 121K 06 Chevy Malibu 71K 13 Outback 0K |
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Wisconsin weather
<<Geez!!! cant you people stand alittle cold?! It seems everytime i turn my back its wisconsin bashing time....your just jelous i get to use the SVX's full potentioal!@(well that and we won the rose bowl!) >>
Umm, uhh Phast, I'm IN Wisconsin. I'd like to have an excuse to go someplace warm in winter is all. And yes, the AWD is fully realized in the Wisconsin climate. And yes again we did win the Rose Bowl. Nothing quite like a state that can drink another state dry yeah hey? |
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March 28th Milwaukee
Phast and Monty,
Check the calendar for March 28th. Morhds and myself will be at the Ale House in Milwaukee. Get a chance drop on by. Also goes for any of you others who might be in the area. |
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Mission Statement Draft
I've posted a draft mission statement in the SVX Owner's Club Organization thread. Please read and comment. I'm asking you to post the comments here, so people won't have to search through a long list of comments to find the orginal. Let's see how that works.
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bill Green 95 SVX - Cleo Green 97 Outback - Maxine Red F-150 Extended Cab Long Bed - Big Boy Even the best monkey sometimes drops his banana. |
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Looks good
I see no problems with the mission statement at this point - it looks quite good.
Names? How about SVX Car Club of America (SVX CCA)? Or SVX Club of America (SVX COA)?
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Think Global
Well, since we have contributors to this board that are in Ireland, Australia and Japan for openers, how about International? Do we want to limit ourselves? Or should owners in other places form a national organization of their own? There are so few SVX owners worldwide, I just wonder. I agree, a name is needed. What we should do is collect suggestions for a while, then put up a poll.
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bill Green 95 SVX - Cleo Green 97 Outback - Maxine Red F-150 Extended Cab Long Bed - Big Boy Even the best monkey sometimes drops his banana. |
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Absolutely International!
Again, the "Penultimate" (if not ULTIMATE!) SVX Owner's Association in the world! Ah, SVX OA, International -- kinda has a ring to it.
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Randy Johnson 3rd Registered Member 02-21-2001 First Member to Reach 10,000 Posts First to arrive at the very first Reading Meet Subaru Ambassador 1992 SVX PPG Pace Car Replica 110+k 1993 White Impreza L 240+K miles 2001 Legacy Outback Limited Sedan 250+K miles 2013 Deep Indigo Pearl Legacy 3.6R 49+K miles "Reading is my favorite Holiday" Mike Davis -- at Reading VI |
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<<Well, since we have contributors to this board that are in Ireland, Australia and Japan for openers, how about International? Do we want to limit ourselves? >>
I could swing both ways (no comment, please) on this. My only concern with "international" vs. "of America" would be to not overextend ourselves - and certainly not bar anybody from joining. It probably stems from my old BMWCCA days, where there were several different "BMW Car Club of _________" in existence.
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Jerry 2005 Baja Turbo 2008 Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor jnj7707@yahoo.com |
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