Hydra Nemesis

[SVXMAN2001]

Couple of things

1) Does the hydra eliminate the ability to self diagnosis check engine codes? If so, how does one troubleshoot a problem with the hydra system.

2) Does the hydra provide any benefit to a completely stock engine?

[TomsSVX]

Originally Posted by SVXMAN2001

Couple of things

1) Does the hydra eliminate the ability to self diagnosis check engine codes? If so, how does one troubleshoot a problem with the hydra system.

2) Does the hydra provide any benefit to a completely stock engine?

1) No it does not have self diagnostics. BUT if the car has a problem running you should be able to find the issue easily by using a laptop and looking at the readouts, or simply plugging the stock ECU back in and using that.

2) Yes I am sure it will. With the base maps, it creates a smoother power delivery. I am sure with a careful tune it would easily see gains over stock, how much? I am still unsure of.

Tom

[Sov13t]

Allow me to expand on it a tiny bit... more from a user perspective.

I am running Hydra on a relatively stock car. With the base maps that Tom created, I noticed a significant improvement in the way the car responded under load and especially at low RPMs and in high gear. Having a manual transmission helped simulate various driving conditions and under all of them the car did not sputter like it didn't have enough "fuel" or "choking"... and performed superbly. To summarize a tiny bit... after taking the car out for a spin after the install of Hydra... my exact words to Tom were: "The car feels lighter".

Now, we did take out the car to the drag and perhaps some of you did see the numbers my car ran... It was my first time ever on the drag and having only 3 runs for the entire day didn't help... but the stock vs hydra time slips showed an entire second gain... Even with all the factors of me being inexperienced with drag and possible inconsistencies.... I strongly believe that the results correctly represent the positive gains of the Hydra.

Hydra is extremely easy to install, it took about 10-15 minutes to have the car running. Yet it is extremely sophisticated in terms of its capabilities.

With my current projects in mind I am not going to be tuning it on a dyno due to the fact that my car will be running completely different engine and other components soon.

To conclude, running static engine management such as our stock ECU and other aftermarket chips that are available makes no sense to me both financially and technically especially if you are planning on modifying your car, however, even for stock SVXs it provides the ability of properly tuning your car whether it is economy your concerned about or performance. The Hydra was, is and will be a great investement which serves as the key to unleashing the potential behind our EG33.

Soon... it won't be just words... it will be numbers...
-Sov13t.

[Freeman]

I'll admit, I've been following this thread since the first post and at first I wasn't really aware of how the Hydra system may benefit me until now. I saw no reason for any form of tuning software or engine management system because I am not really technically or mechanically inclined what so ever when it comes to vehicles.

I'm now very excited to see how this would perform on an automatic and even more so excited to install an in car PC system to allow me to use this software.. (I know it's not necessary to have an in car PC but if I do this, I'm going to do it beautifully and integrate it into my car fully)

Very well put TomsSVX and Sov13t..

[TomsSVX]

updated the first post to include pricing

Tom

[AFBeefcake]

Could the base maps be used without tuning? I know it would be kinda dum to buy one and then not tune it, but anyway.

[TomsSVX]

Originally Posted by AFBeefcake

Could the base maps be used without tuning? I know it would be kinda dum to buy one and then not tune it, but anyway.

Didn't understand you at first, but yes. The car will run very nicely with the base maps, but with tuning it will run better, I am sure.

Tom

[Nevin]

I don't have the money to buy this at the moment, but consider this on my "to buy" list.

I have no issues with spending my hard-earned money on a quality product that works right.

[Johnybeas]

Bonus came in... gov took about 5K in taxes and utah took about 1300 but all in all still got a good chunk. So correct me if I'm wrong but if I'm looking at this right, for a hydra for my 5spd with base maps I'm looking at 1850??? ouch! It is however, a good price for what it is and the long run value. I think it'll be a good investment... is that shipped to me or is that extra???

[TomsSVX]

Yes your math is correct. That includes shipping anywhere in the lower 48 or installation

Tom

[Johnybeas]

ok, I might just be placing an order sometime soon. What is the lead time once ordered?

[TomsSVX]

Two weeks for delivery etc...

Tom

[ridered777]

Could a shop that specilizes in tuning for turbo applications (WRX, etc) tune this for a stock engine and see signifigant gains? Can we purchase your map with the Hydra for some extra $$ (the one Sov13t was talking about)?

I'm looking into this, but think it would only be worth it if I got it tuned, so I'm looking at my options.

[TomsSVX]

Originally Posted by ridered777

Could a shop that specilizes in tuning for turbo applications (WRX, etc) tune this for a stock engine and see signifigant gains? Can we purchase your map with the Hydra for some extra $$ (the one Sov13t was talking about)?

I'm looking into this, but think it would only be worth it if I got it tuned, so I'm looking at my options.

Read over the first post... It will answer all your questions. It would be ideal to have a hydra tuner tune the car for optimal gains, but there is an improvement with the base maps alone.

Tom

[Johnybeas]

since you are using map not maf does the hydra need to be retuned every time you go to a different altitude for an extended amount of time???