subaru lover's motorcycle

BoxerFanatic · #1 07-11-2010, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by benebob

Enough with the plastic that is more fitting on a Kia then a BMW cycle. Then again they both buy their plastic bits from the slave labor state of China so I guess it is okay. Bimmer bikes stopped being made in my mind around the time hair bands cutting their hair. As much as I like the new inline with insane power I simply won't buy a product that was built in China.

Funny, this bike looks like it has a lot of plastic on it... and it is a 1985. The other is a 2010 R1200R... with fairly minimal plastic.

While I agree with your stance on exploitation, I am not so sure that BMW bikes are made in China, and plastic parts can be built anywhere, including Germany. Not all of them are de-facto made in china.

Although, unfortunately, or necessarily... there are a billion people in that country, and some of them are employed, under a communistic government that manages industry, building pieces and components that go into just about everything, regardless of where final assembly takes place. Boycotting every molecule out of china would be a forced fast against pretty much everything aside from locally grown food.

What I don't get is why people think it is so fantastic to start implementing central planning, and eviscerating equal individual rights and freedoms in the US, trying to take us politically, and economically toward china's direction. But that is a discussion for another thread in another forum.

BMW bikes are still BMW bikes. Anything can be parsed down to find a point of contention, or otherwise taken with a grain of salt and pragmatic reality.

benebob · #2 07-11-2010, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BoxerFanatic

Funny, this bike looks like it has a lot of plastic on it... and it is a 1985. The other is a 2010 R1200R... with fairly minimal plastic.

While I agree with your stance on exploitation, I am not so sure that BMW bikes are made in China, and plastic parts can be built anywhere, including Germany. Not all of them are de-facto made in china.

Although, unfortunately, or necessarily... there are a billion people in that country, and some of them are employed, under a communistic government that manages industry, building pieces and components that go into just about everything, regardless of where final assembly takes place. Boycotting every molecule out of china would be a forced fast against pretty much everything aside from locally grown food.

What I don't get is why people think it is so fantastic to start implementing central planning, and eviscerating equal individual rights and freedoms in the US, trying to take us politically, and economically toward china's direction. But that is a discussion for another thread in another forum.

BMW bikes are still BMW bikes. Anything can be parsed down to find a point of contention, or otherwise taken with a grain of salt and pragmatic reality.

BMW has invested heavily in China. That's where their new flagship crotch rocket engine is made. Sure there were some platic atrocities in the 80s under the bimmer name but overall they were still building nice, solid performing standards that looked like motorcycles, not something that looks like it came from German designers who thought that since they slept with an Italian hooker they understood how to design a pretty bike. BMW has always been about engineering not about design. Now they think they can design too.

RSVX · #3 07-14-2010, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by benebob

BMW has invested heavily in China. That's where their new flagship crotch rocket engine is made. Sure there were some platic atrocities in the 80s under the bimmer name but overall they were still building nice, solid performing standards that looked like motorcycles, not something that looks like it came from German designers who thought that since they slept with an Italian hooker they understood how to design a pretty bike. BMW has always been about engineering not about design. Now they think they can design too.

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Originally Posted by BoxerFanatic

Funny, this bike looks like it has a lot of plastic on it... and it is a 1985. The other is a 2010 R1200R... with fairly minimal plastic.

While I agree with your stance on exploitation, I am not so sure that BMW bikes are made in China, and plastic parts can be built anywhere, including Germany. Not all of them are de-facto made in china.

Although, unfortunately, or necessarily... there are a billion people in that country, and some of them are employed, under a communistic government that manages industry, building pieces and components that go into just about everything, regardless of where final assembly takes place. Boycotting every molecule out of china would be a forced fast against pretty much everything aside from locally grown food.

What I don't get is why people think it is so fantastic to start implementing central planning, and eviscerating equal individual rights and freedoms in the US, trying to take us politically, and economically toward china's direction. But that is a discussion for another thread in another forum.

BMW bikes are still BMW bikes. Anything can be parsed down to find a point of contention, or otherwise taken with a grain of salt and pragmatic reality.

All BMW motorcycles are "assembled" in Berlin.