Picture Thread!!!!

[svxistentialist]

Originally Posted by svxcess

So the 1996 and 1997 cars were the only ones to have this color. This color changes a lot, dependent on the lighting. B.C's photos show the actual color more accurately, while my digital camera shows the same color differently on my 96 polo.

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Nicely put, John.

Arthur over in England has one like yours[517], it looks a lovely colour.

I mentioned this about pearl paints being difficult to photograph before and got shot down by a yadda yadda yadda from Bill I think it was, or OT.

Pearls usually have a base color of silver or gold, and the light bounces back through the colored topcoat. Depending on the angle and strength of the light, they will look different every time.

Joe

Plus most digital cameras get the white balance wrong.

[wannarace928]

Originally Posted by svxcess

The term "Polo Green" actually referred to two different colors from 1995-1997. The color code for the color usually referred to as Polo Green is 517

It is not to be confused with Emerald Green Pearl, whose paint code is 434. Emerald Green Pearl, a very dark green, first appeared on the SVX in 1994, and was carried over into 1995 production.

Sometime early in the 1995 production cycle, the name, but not the actual color, was changed to Polo Green Pearl. Throughout the remainder of 1995 SVX production, Polo Green Pearl still retained that same color code 434.

Beginning with 1996 production, a new, brighter green (color 517) was introduced to reflect that name change, and this color remained through the end of SVX production in 1997.

So the 1996 and 1997 cars were the only ones to have this color. This color changes a lot, dependent on the lighting. B.C's photos show the actual color more accurately, while my digital camera shows the same color differently on my 96 polo.

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Are you absolutely sure they did not change the color halfway through the 1995 year to polo green? Momzsvx just brought me a spoiler from her 1995 "polo" and it is a darker green than my 1995 "polo". My SVX looks like the color of the 1996 Polo B.C posted pictures of. And the spoiler she brought me looks like it has a little more blue in it. She said that her car was the same color as another 1995 SVX, but its definately not the same color as mine. I'm guessing hers is the Emerald pearl, and mine is actually Polo. I'll try to get a good picture today of the color difference in the spoiler to the trunk lid of mine.

[svxistentialist]

Originally Posted by wannarace928

Are you absolutely sure they did not change the color halfway through the 1995 year to polo green? Momzsvx just brought me a spoiler from her 1995 "polo" and it is a darker green than my 1995 "polo". My SVX looks like the color of the 1996 Polo B.C posted pictures of. And the spoiler she brought me looks like it has a little more blue in it. She said that her car was the same color as another 1995 SVX, but its definately not the same color as mine. I'm guessing hers is the Emerald pearl, and mine is actually Polo. I'll try to get a good picture today of the color difference in the spoiler to the trunk lid of mine.

Wannarace

Sometimes cars get registered late in a particular year, and that car has been "in the system" for a year or more before registration to the first owner.

By that I mean the car could have been sitting at the dealers, or been held over at the distributors, and be an older color.

It is unfortunate and not very professional that the same name Polo was applied to two different colours. What you should have done was to get Momsvx to check her color code on the suspension turret under the hood, and see if it matched yours.

You will unfortunately find if you do this that Momsvx has the code 434 and yours has the code 517. I would agree with you that the Emerald Green 434 has a hint of blue in it, whereas the 517 that we think of as Polo Green and the Japanese call Bright Green Mica, that color is pure green through and through.

You will have to paint it.

Joe

[wannarace928]

Yeah, mine actually is Polo green. I found the paint code on my car.



This is the difference in the 2 paint colors (Please ignore the cat prints):

[svxcess]

It would be interesting to find out the production date (located on the inside driver's door jamb) and the last 5 digits of the VIN for both Momzsvx and yours to find out when the color actually changed.

Paintscratch.com has both colors (and their codes) listed as available in 1995. see attached screenshot.

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[svxistentialist]

Originally Posted by svxcess

It would be interesting to find out the production date (located on the inside driver's door jamb) and the last 5 digits of the VIN for both Momzsvx and yours to find out when the color actually changed.

Paintscratch.com has both colors (and their codes) listed as available in 1995. see attached screenshot.

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John

Your tag line just reminded me of an old memory. You, I would think, are old enough like myself to remember early Paul Simon and Simon and Garfunkel.

Do you remember "Big Bright Green Pleasure Machine"?

"I've been Ayn Randed, nearly branded communist 'cos I'm left handed"

Ah, them were the days.



Joe

[B.C]

Originally Posted by lilbrudder

my baby...
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my mistress...
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these pictures made me hungry for some macoroni !!

[It's Just Eric]

mentioned this about pearl paints being difficult to photograph before and got shot down by a yadda yadda yadda from Bill I think it was, or OT.

Pearls usually have a base color of silver or gold, and the light bounces back through the colored topcoat. Depending on the angle and strength of the light, they will look different every time.

Joe

Right but wrong joe,
Modern pearl colors actually use colored pearlecent material in the base coat itself. The exception, of course, being pearl white. those use a white basecoat and a mix of white pearl and clear before the final clearcoat. Whites are done that way mostly because if it were done otherwise, itd take easilly 12 coats to get it to look right

very few factory paint jobs anymore use a silver base with translucent color coat. its a shame, those jobs always looked GREAT, and had the same kind of depth as the crystal blue water of the Bahamas

Back on topic....A quick shot from our trip out to mass.

[svxistentialist]

Originally Posted by It's Just Eric

Right but wrong joe,
Modern pearl colors actually use colored pearlecent material in the base coat itself. The exception, of course, being pearl white. those use a white basecoat and a mix of white pearl and clear before the final clearcoat. Whites are done that way mostly because if it were done otherwise, itd take easilly 12 coats to get it to look right

very few factory paint jobs anymore use a silver base with translucent color coat. its a shame, those jobs always looked GREAT, and had the same kind of depth as the crystal blue water of the Bahamas

Back on topic....A quick shot from our trip out to mass.

Lovely shot, Eric, atmospheric.

I expect what you say is true, but conflicts with my most recent experience. My brother had the plastic panels of his Honda motorcycle resprayed pearl red to match. Specific Honda instructions involved spraying a silver undercoat, then successive coats of red over that.

To get it to match the painter had to do a test pattern overlaying several coats of red, and constantly checking the resultant colour density against the original panels. When they match, then that's exactly the number of coats you give it. Apparently different painters layer on the paint thicker or thinner, depending on the speed they pass over the panel and how far away the gun is.

Doing the test panel is aimed at eliminating this person-to-person difference.

It worked.

It explained a lot to me as to why I am never satisfied with the finished colour when I get a panel resprayed. There isn't a spray painter from here to Katmandu that would do that much advance checking to ensure a correct panel match. Every last man jack of them will give it what they think is the correct amount of coats, and haze it into the adjoining panels so you can't see a hard edge of colour mismatch. Not what will actually match the paint.

Enough coats of the correct code paint and it must match, right? If not, the shop didn't mix the code right [someone else's fault] or it can't possibly match because the original panels are UV faded [something else's fault]

You can see I don't have much faith in the trade.

And now over here the EU has gone environment crazy, and all paints have to be water based. Which none of them can do properly.

Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy.

[OrangeOkie]

Originally Posted by svxcess

. . . It is not to be confused with Emerald Green Pearl, whose paint code is 434. Emerald Green Pearl, a very dark green, first appeared on the SVX in 1994, and was carried over into 1995 production.
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JF1CX3356SH100275
Manufacture Date: July 1994

[svxcess]

Originally Posted by OrangeOkie

JF1CX3356SH100275
Manufacture Date: July 1994

In the sun, this color looks more like color 434 "emerald pearl/Early Polo". It is not quite as green as the later Polos.
What is the paint code under the hood (in the driver's strut tower)?

Here are photos, side by side, of BC's 1996 Polo Green (517) and yours.



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[Gloomy]

Hey guys!

I found that discution about pearl color pretty interresting! I also have a little question for you..

Do you guys happen to know if it's difficult to get that OEM pearl look from a good body shop? My dad bought the SVX (Color code 434) new in 1994 and the car has been repainted in 1998 after a minor accident. I remember my dad tolding me that the new paint was now darker. It's more like any usual dark green, I hate it.

I'm planning to get the car repainted back to it's original 434 pearl color really soon and I want to be sure that it's possible to obtain that OEM pearl from the factory. The white or silver base that you were talking before seems to be one of the complicated and expensive process to get my car like a new one...

By the way, this is how my SVX stands for now:




Thanks!

[svxistentialist]

Originally Posted by Gloomy

Hey guys!

I found that discution about pearl color pretty interresting! I also have a little question for you..

Do you guys happen to know if it's difficult to get that OEM pearl look from a good body shop? My dad bought the SVX (Color code 434) new in 1994 and the car has been repainted in 1998 after a minor accident. I remember my dad tolding me that the new paint was now darker. It's more like any usual dark green, I hate it.

I'm planning to get the car repainted back to it's original 434 pearl color really soon and I want to be sure that it's possible to obtain that OEM pearl from the factory. The white or silver base that you were talking before seems to be one of the complicated and expensive process to get my car like a new one...

By the way, this is how my SVX stands for now:

Thanks!

Alex, your SVX looks the dog's b****x. Nicely kept, congratulations.

Eric is quite right about the application of pearl paint for the SVX. Most colours get 3 coats, base, colour and clear, but white gets 4 layers. White gets base [we would think of it as primer], then colour base, then the actual mica colour coat, finally the clear topcoat.

The process I described for my brother's bike is actually that used for what is known as candy paint. The candy paint is translucent, it allows light through. A number of coats are covered over the base silver. Light bounces off the silver back through the coloured paint, and this gives them the deep look when you view the paint in strong light.

If you are going to repaint your Dad's Emerald 434, I have a suggestion or two.

First, use the best shop you can afford. A full paint job requires a real expert who knows what to do.

Next, get the expert painter to recommend a paint mixing shop to you. The painter will be aware of where the paint mixing expertise is best and most precise for uniformity. This is very important.

Next next, [] buy only a high quality strongly UV resistant clear coat, and give it at least two coats, more if the painter is happy to oblige or agrees it is a good thing.

My guess is your new spray job darkened by UV fading. I suspect the clear coat used either was not UV resistant at all, or if it had UV inhibitor in it, the paint was not layered on thick enough to make the shielding effective from sunlight.

I hope this helps.

Joe

[Gloomy]

Hehe!

Thanks Joe!

First, it's no more my dad's SVX it's mine since 2000! I'm 22 now and I will always remember when I was 9, at the Subaru dealer seeking for that pearl SVX. Wathever

You need to know that as soon as the SVX was repainted, it was clear that the new color was darker. The ''body man'' (Is that it in english?) told us that he change the color a bit. It's probably because it would be too difficult to to get that OEM look.

Thanks for the good comments, I'm trying to take care of that car the best I can!

[svxistentialist]

Wow!

You surprised me. The color in you picture looks so dark I thought it was Ebony Mica.

That's not UV fade, mate, the guy who did the paint changed the color concentrations. It's not stock color.

Hey, I like it though.

Joe