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The truth is the truth.......is the truth...
The truth IS....whether you ...or anyone else believes it ..or NOT! Many comments here were just totally and inappropriately negative... judgemental...and illogical. Some were obviously personal attacks. I don't like to ignore those types of comments....
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BUT..I think we're coming to the end of the speculation analysis phase...and moving into the subjective test result phase....I look forward to the results ...too! Quote:
THANKS to you all for your interest! Jim P.S. I just have to say....I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU THINK THOSE COMMENTS ABOUT AMWAY ARE INCONSISTENT...??? Once AGAIN! I was an Amway distributor. I earned $200,000 through a settlement involving long-distance payphone service. That's it!...THAT's EVERYTHING...???
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Jim 1995 Laguna Blue SVX AWD L - 240K (daily driver) - "ReBuILT" used engine at 236K miles (6/13) 2013 Veloster Red - Driver Now??Dropsprings [1/2" rear, 1" front] with Koni Strut Inserts> Magnaflow Exhaust System> ECUTune Stage 1av1 Upgrade (from 1v4)> ECUTune TCU MOD> Aluminum Crankshaft Pulley> Stainless Brake Lines> Phenolic Spacers> Perforated Brake Rotors (dint like, OEM now)> SmallCar Shift Kit (resting since TCU MOD)> 7-Position Ground System> High-Pressure Fuel Pressure Regulator (resting)> ATF Cooler & Campaign Filter> Yellow Polish Polyurethane Bushings> Pioneer Double-DIN Stereo with JL AUDIO Speakers> Driveshaft Rebuilt with C-Clip U-Joints> 15 Min MOD> 20 Min MOD .. . (2011) Valentine One Radar Detector with Remote Display - ucan'tseeme! Last edited by James Scott; 03-28-2006 at 01:42 AM. |
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Any results from the guys who got the bio pills?
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a cleaner burn does not/ can not create more oxygen. now if your suggesting that the pill in someway adds air to the mixture id raise an eyebrow and listen. i would be more apt to think that whatever it did to the gas create a small knock in the motor at stock timing so it pulls that back some timing and richens the fuel mixture to reduce the knock. |
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I got the pills and they smell horrible! I opened the bottle, didn't even touch them and my hands smelled bad for 2 hours!
Haven't put any in the tank yet. That will start next thursday.
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David B. SVXipedia @ SVX-IW.COM -- SVX Information Warehouse 2.0 coming...eventually! Ebony 1992 SVX LS-L 5 spd Koni/GC Stebro 187k miles RIP (Rust In Pieces) 1993 SVX 5 spd Koni/GC Stebro Polyurethane bushings still available! |
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David B. SVXipedia @ SVX-IW.COM -- SVX Information Warehouse 2.0 coming...eventually! Ebony 1992 SVX LS-L 5 spd Koni/GC Stebro 187k miles RIP (Rust In Pieces) 1993 SVX 5 spd Koni/GC Stebro Polyurethane bushings still available! |
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Ok I am on the fourth tank. On the Third tank i got 415 miles which was aprox. 27 mpg. I don't know but I think that is good!
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'92 Subaru SVX Moda 1-Silver five-star rims ECUtune Stage 1 SmallCar Shift Kit K&N Iridium Spark Plugs All Mobil 1 synthetic oils Almost 160,000 miles and never ran better! |
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And James I need you to send me a bottle of 40 cause the ones I ordered are not gonna get here in time! Your PM Box is full so e-mail me when you see this!
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'92 Subaru SVX Moda 1-Silver five-star rims ECUtune Stage 1 SmallCar Shift Kit K&N Iridium Spark Plugs All Mobil 1 synthetic oils Almost 160,000 miles and never ran better! |
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They are.....AROMATIC!...
Sorry Dave....I forgot to tell you that they have a powerful odor. I don't open them in the house. Keep in trunk of car...or open in garage. Ironically, I really thought they smelled bad...BUT don't bother me much now at all! BUT I know how you feel...cuz I felt like that at first, too.
I recommend that you guys "testing" the pills...not talk about the results until the 4 tankfuls are completed. That way, we will avoid alot of the negativity...and speculation that has occurred to date. Let the chips fall where they will! If you want to contact me, you have all my numbers...I will keep any info given to me confidential...til the end of the "test". Then YOU EACH CAN DIVULGE YOUR RESULTS....OK? ONE of the components of BioPerformance fuel pills is also in moth balls I believe! THANKS! Jim P.S. I just pour the pills (2 or 4) into the cap, then toss into the gas tank tube....without touching them! HAVE FUN!
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Jim 1995 Laguna Blue SVX AWD L - 240K (daily driver) - "ReBuILT" used engine at 236K miles (6/13) 2013 Veloster Red - Driver Now??Dropsprings [1/2" rear, 1" front] with Koni Strut Inserts> Magnaflow Exhaust System> ECUTune Stage 1av1 Upgrade (from 1v4)> ECUTune TCU MOD> Aluminum Crankshaft Pulley> Stainless Brake Lines> Phenolic Spacers> Perforated Brake Rotors (dint like, OEM now)> SmallCar Shift Kit (resting since TCU MOD)> 7-Position Ground System> High-Pressure Fuel Pressure Regulator (resting)> ATF Cooler & Campaign Filter> Yellow Polish Polyurethane Bushings> Pioneer Double-DIN Stereo with JL AUDIO Speakers> Driveshaft Rebuilt with C-Clip U-Joints> 15 Min MOD> 20 Min MOD .. . (2011) Valentine One Radar Detector with Remote Display - ucan'tseeme! |
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Need 40!...
ADAM: Do you want pills or powder? When do you absolutely need them? First class mail or Priority gets there pretty quickly!...? Same address?
Glad they're working! Jim P.S. I've never seen 27 mpg! The best ever for me has been 25.35 ... and that was on the pills!
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Jim 1995 Laguna Blue SVX AWD L - 240K (daily driver) - "ReBuILT" used engine at 236K miles (6/13) 2013 Veloster Red - Driver Now??Dropsprings [1/2" rear, 1" front] with Koni Strut Inserts> Magnaflow Exhaust System> ECUTune Stage 1av1 Upgrade (from 1v4)> ECUTune TCU MOD> Aluminum Crankshaft Pulley> Stainless Brake Lines> Phenolic Spacers> Perforated Brake Rotors (dint like, OEM now)> SmallCar Shift Kit (resting since TCU MOD)> 7-Position Ground System> High-Pressure Fuel Pressure Regulator (resting)> ATF Cooler & Campaign Filter> Yellow Polish Polyurethane Bushings> Pioneer Double-DIN Stereo with JL AUDIO Speakers> Driveshaft Rebuilt with C-Clip U-Joints> 15 Min MOD> 20 Min MOD .. . (2011) Valentine One Radar Detector with Remote Display - ucan'tseeme! |
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to PatrickB....
My explanation was sloppy at best...sorry! I just heard a quick explanation that I know was inadequate. BP is supposed to address this issue in the near future!
I do remember hearing as part of the explanation of the action of the fuel pill formula (three catalysts)...that it oxygenates the fuel......SO, you must be right! I will get back with more credible info...and their suggestions as soon as I hear from BP directly. [I know there is info on the internet my friend located...which says there was a "fix"...inline electrical component on the O2 sensor line...??? JUST SOMETHING I HEARD!...please wait] Jim
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Jim 1995 Laguna Blue SVX AWD L - 240K (daily driver) - "ReBuILT" used engine at 236K miles (6/13) 2013 Veloster Red - Driver Now??Dropsprings [1/2" rear, 1" front] with Koni Strut Inserts> Magnaflow Exhaust System> ECUTune Stage 1av1 Upgrade (from 1v4)> ECUTune TCU MOD> Aluminum Crankshaft Pulley> Stainless Brake Lines> Phenolic Spacers> Perforated Brake Rotors (dint like, OEM now)> SmallCar Shift Kit (resting since TCU MOD)> 7-Position Ground System> High-Pressure Fuel Pressure Regulator (resting)> ATF Cooler & Campaign Filter> Yellow Polish Polyurethane Bushings> Pioneer Double-DIN Stereo with JL AUDIO Speakers> Driveshaft Rebuilt with C-Clip U-Joints> 15 Min MOD> 20 Min MOD .. . (2011) Valentine One Radar Detector with Remote Display - ucan'tseeme! |
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Robert Is Bush in jail yet? (Looks frantically at watch, then back up) How about now? Now? Come onnnnnn...... Someone freeze me until January, this wait is killing me. Update: 09 January, and still not in jail! Wassup?? 1992 Teal LS-L - 160k (Now new and improved with perfect paint!) |
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INCREASED!......or dropped...?
As I said when we started this "test" ....It's important to get a base mpg (before fuel pills) that is most similar to the type of driving you will then do...with the pills! This is the factor that can make this type of testing most subjective. Obviously, any car gets better gas mileage during freeway driving as compared to city driving!
The best way to prepare for this ...is to get a base mileage for city...AND freeway driving! I didn't do that. I just got a city/country road (my most usual driving conditions) base figure of 18.27 mpg. All I have for freeway trip driving is a crude figure of less than 22 mpg (never quite 22) on any trip after the high- pressure fuel-pressure regulator was installed. My tankfuls with BioPerformance fuel pill/powder product range from + 6% to + 38% (but must be subjectively corrected for type of driving)! Since I know the 38% figure came from a 25.35 mpg result during freeway driving (some city!)....I still can deduce that there was at least a 25.35/22 - 100 = 15.2% increase in gas mileage for that "high-speed" trip. In fact, I consistently average now about a 15% increase in gas mileage for the various driving conditions, as best I can analyze...since each tankful is a unique set of driving conditions really. I don't know what Adam's base mileage figure was for the type of driving he has done on tankful #3? I personally have never gotten 27 mpg EVER on any tank....on any trip....under any conditions myself!....? I hesitate to discuss this ...or any other result...until the 4 tankfuls are done on all seven SVX cars. Otherwise, we may affect the interpretations... and even whether the individual follows through with all four tankfuls.... to do a good test on each vehicle....because of premature discussions. I request that the individuals participating in this either refrain from commenting at all about their results...or contact me if they feel they need to talk about how they are testing...or their results, before all 7 have tested all 4 tankfuls...to do a proper test (according to BioPerformance protocol).... THANKS! Jim
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Jim 1995 Laguna Blue SVX AWD L - 240K (daily driver) - "ReBuILT" used engine at 236K miles (6/13) 2013 Veloster Red - Driver Now??Dropsprings [1/2" rear, 1" front] with Koni Strut Inserts> Magnaflow Exhaust System> ECUTune Stage 1av1 Upgrade (from 1v4)> ECUTune TCU MOD> Aluminum Crankshaft Pulley> Stainless Brake Lines> Phenolic Spacers> Perforated Brake Rotors (dint like, OEM now)> SmallCar Shift Kit (resting since TCU MOD)> 7-Position Ground System> High-Pressure Fuel Pressure Regulator (resting)> ATF Cooler & Campaign Filter> Yellow Polish Polyurethane Bushings> Pioneer Double-DIN Stereo with JL AUDIO Speakers> Driveshaft Rebuilt with C-Clip U-Joints> 15 Min MOD> 20 Min MOD .. . (2011) Valentine One Radar Detector with Remote Display - ucan'tseeme! |
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They have a protocol? Why is that good?
(j/k!)
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Robert Is Bush in jail yet? (Looks frantically at watch, then back up) How about now? Now? Come onnnnnn...... Someone freeze me until January, this wait is killing me. Update: 09 January, and still not in jail! Wassup?? 1992 Teal LS-L - 160k (Now new and improved with perfect paint!) |
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Protocol?
Again...I don't know all of the "ins and outs", but they say it may take as many as 4 tankfuls of gas before an increase in savings is seen. So, they say always do the 4 tanks first....BUT..the President of the company tried pills for 5 or 6 tanks..with no increase! Then he tried the BioPerformance powder... and he got 30+% increase! Evidently, some newer cars have anti-syphon tubes (either S-shaped or with a wire mesh) which prevents the pill from being completely dissolved (holds it above the tank...out of the gas). Hence the difference with powder! The President, Lowell Mimms, calls himself the "Powder Man".
I just called it a "protocol". Maybe that is the wrong term...? Part of the reason for this "protocol" is that the Booster tanks (the first two, with twice the amount of BP fuel additive) are stronger because there is an initial tank and fuel system cleaning phase. Thanks! Jim
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Jim 1995 Laguna Blue SVX AWD L - 240K (daily driver) - "ReBuILT" used engine at 236K miles (6/13) 2013 Veloster Red - Driver Now??Dropsprings [1/2" rear, 1" front] with Koni Strut Inserts> Magnaflow Exhaust System> ECUTune Stage 1av1 Upgrade (from 1v4)> ECUTune TCU MOD> Aluminum Crankshaft Pulley> Stainless Brake Lines> Phenolic Spacers> Perforated Brake Rotors (dint like, OEM now)> SmallCar Shift Kit (resting since TCU MOD)> 7-Position Ground System> High-Pressure Fuel Pressure Regulator (resting)> ATF Cooler & Campaign Filter> Yellow Polish Polyurethane Bushings> Pioneer Double-DIN Stereo with JL AUDIO Speakers> Driveshaft Rebuilt with C-Clip U-Joints> 15 Min MOD> 20 Min MOD .. . (2011) Valentine One Radar Detector with Remote Display - ucan'tseeme! |
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