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So the idea of calling 'atheism' a religion is about as absurd as calling any AWD vehicle a Subaru. Sure, most Subarus have AWD, but that doesn't mean that every AWD vehicle is a Subaru. Atheism is a belief system, and the MAIN difference is that they LACK any sort of belief in a higher power. Here's a dictionary to help you understand: Religion: # Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe. Atheism: 1. Disbelief in or denial of the existence of God or gods. 2. The doctrine that there is no God or gods. Another common ignorant statement I hear quite often is 'atheists claim there is no god! But there has to be a god in order for htem to say that!', which is also pretty retarded. If I say "I don't believe that a fuzzy purple monster lives in your anus and shoots fireballs at only one type of mosquito", that doesn't mean that the purple monster exists, it means that I don't believe there is a purple monster. - Jim PS: I'm not an atheist. Nor am I a christian. I'm just some guy, ya know? |
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You seem to have left out the rest of the definition.
Religion: 1. a. Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe. b. A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship. 2. The life or condition of a person in a religious order. 3. A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader. 4. A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion. The American Heritage® Dictionary If an athiest wanted to persue their cause/principle with devotion, it seems as if that would qualify. Maybe saying "That's 100% wrong. Completely. Totally. You're not understanding what athiests believe AT ALL" was a bit on the extreme side. -Alex Last edited by Breck SVX; 11-05-2004 at 02:40 PM. |
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- Jim |
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if you moved to Saudi Arabia, you'd have a hard time selling bikinis because the majority of that country is ........ Islamic, who believe women should be covered up. i'm sure a small majority would like to wear bikinis, but since the majority rules, no dice.
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If it was always 'majority rules', we would still have slaves, women wouldn't be allowed to vote, etc etc etc. - Jim |
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Last edited by Breck SVX; 11-05-2004 at 07:10 PM. |
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of course you are free to have a minority opinion without getting thrown in jail, but don't expect it to become a law if it comes to a vote.
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shall we continue?
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To make it simple, let's take your statement "atheists do not believe in a higher power" if you believe that that is what makes Atheism not a religion, then I can say "Christians do not believe in the absence of a higher power"...so then you would have to call christianity not a religion. Basically, according to the legal definition, if you say the words "believe in" when describing Atheism...it's a religion. Quote:
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On the issue of removing religion, if you're talking about banning prayer in the classroom. Honestly I don't see the need for it. I was Christian, and I don't remember ever being told that I needed to say a prayer at any particular time during the day. Actually, growing up I was always told to say my prayers before I went to sleep at night. To me, religion is a family thing, practice it at home, together. If you are talking about other times where people have attempted to remove religion (ex. removing "In God We Trust" from money) I am torn on the issues. These have blended the line between religion and tradition. For some I side with tradition and think we should keep them, for others I think we should get rid off them. This is not the place for that however, if you wish to have more of a discussion it is going to be a private one.
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Anyway, don't bother replying, it's quite apparent that you're completely wrong and set upon being so. - Jim |
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I don't want Christianity banned... I'm myself Christian. (PM me if you want to object) I just have a large problem with people thinking they know better than the person making the decision. I don't think I critized another member
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