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Dude... that link I posted is an article from CAR AND DRIVER. They, the unbiased anti american car people, compared the neon to the rest. The tests speak for themselves.
Any test showing the neon doing 0-60 slower than 7.5 seconds is showing what an AUTOMATIC neon can do, which is more like 8-9 seconds, running lethargic high 17s in the 1/4. 5spd neons are fast. Much faster than cavies, saturns, and about equal to the SVX. - Rob |
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That being said, there's still a problem with the article...it lists the 0-60 time of the "Cavalier Z24" as 8.1 seconds. However on the CAR&DRIVER SITE...they list the 0-60 time as 7.5 seconds, and the date of the test is listed as "10/97" (before the neon R/T test), so what gives? According to Automobile Magazine...the standard Cavalier runs 0-60 in 8.2secs and the Z24 in 7.4secs. So I think they may have been looking at the regular cavalier instead of the Z24 they listed it as. The automatic vs. manual discrepancies are not uncommon...all the test figures i gave were automatics. The only 5spd Z24 test i found was in my march 2000 Road & Track, where they found it to run 0-60 in 7.2 secs. |
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AHHH figured it out. The article and specs ARE from Car&Driver, but the graphs on the right that show comparison between cars are not. NONE of those specs match what Car&Driver has listed on their site or in their road test archive. Nor do they match up with what other publications have found. This is why I didn't bother reading that link in the first place...they can't be trusted to do true comparisons.
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Hi Subafan, What have you been smoking. Here is the Saturn driver. Does not know how to drive. Pays list price plus for the car. etc. My brother inlaw bought a Saturn for his daughter.They had to replace just about every major componant, Like engine , tranny, and most of the little stuff like door locke, hinges etc. I would have to say that he is not to car savvy, coming from N.Y.City where a lot of people take public transportation. Take care, BOBB
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Either 18,500 miles is really early for an engine to go bad or it just goes to show what a bad driver the owner was. I don't know. I should have steered clear of this conversation from the beginning. It started with a GM, and I knew you'd be in here waving their flag (I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that) and I have no desire to argue with you any more about it.
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Kenneth 1997 Subaru SVX LSi "Svetlana" #185 of 640 - 09/1996 - Polo Green Pearl - 34k miles 1992 Subaru SVX LS-L "Everett" #8738 - 01/1992 - Ebony Pearl - 139k miles - 5MT shifty - Sold 07/31/2011 1992 Subaru SVX LS-L "Sven" #1599 - 05/1991 - Claret - 168k miles - Traded 05/11/2005 2023 Subaru Crosstrek Limited CVT - Crystal White Pearl - 2.8k miles 2021 Subaru Forester 2.5i Limited CVT - Horizon Blue Pearl - 17k miles 2023 Volkswagen Jetta S 6MT - Pure White - 2.6k miles 2020 Hyundai Ioniq Limited EV - Ceramic White - 30k miles |
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a guy i went to school with had a girlfriend with a Toyota (Corolla?) that went over 30k without an oil change. continued running good after he changed it, too. i'd be curious to see how long that sucker held up.
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i hear Ukranian cars can run without any oil at all.
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Alan 1987 928 S4 (Black) SOLD! 1997 SVX LSi (Ebony) SOLD! 2005 Legacy GT (Silver) [Cobb Stg 2+] SOLD! 1987 928 S4 (Black) SOLD! 2005 Forester XT Premium (Crystal Gray Metallic) SOLD! 2008 Lancer Evolution X MR (Apex Silver) [Cobb Stg 1+] 2015 Outlander Sport 2.4GT AWD (Mercury Gray) 2013 G37xS (Obsidian Black) |
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