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That seems to be the case Tom. Harvey told me he [now] has the SS2 in the transmission. What I am unclear on is what style SS2 was on the VTD transmission, Japanese style or RHD style.
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As far as I am concerned there is no bickering. My objective has been to provide Alex with correct and exact answers to his questions. Granted, in the face of much concerted opposition. Arguing that which is correct, has been an absolute necessity. No other member has accepted the responsibility involved in providing definite answers, and incessant baseless queries have distorted fact. I am unsure what JDM/USA indicates in regard to the first diagram . The manual I have, which I understood covers the JDM VTD cars is very different from the US manual. Speed sensor 2 receives a supply at battery voltage (b+), via fuse no. 15, and not 5 volts. It would appear to me that different inputs, for two sensors having different output characteristics, have been arranged, rather than a form of conversion. The JAM VDT manual I have, shows the transmission mounted speed sensor 2 circuit, as between TCU a17 and ground, with TCU c6 providing an output for the speedo and cruise. TCU C11 is not shown The US manual I have shows the external sensor 2 circuit, as between TCU a11 and ground, with a17 and c6 not shown. The speedo and cruise is connected between a11 and ground, which provides a direct output from the powered sensor. The Euro diagram shows the transmission mounted speed sensor 2 circuit, as between TCU a17 and ground, with C6 and A11 bridged and supplying the speedo. This would appear to indicate that TCU a17 is an input for an inductive internal sensor, while TCU a11 is an input for a powered external sensor. N.B. C6 would seem to be associated with output for the speedo and is in use only with the internal inductive sensor. Provided that Alex has a US system N/C C solenoid valve, a US TCU and an external powered speed sensor 2, as I see it, the sensor should be connected, --- (1) to US TCU a11, (3) to B+ via fuse 15. (2) to engine/transmission ground. The speedo and cruise should be connected to US TCU a11, so as to receive a direct signal from the sensor. This, presuming that the Euro and VTD speedometer and cruise input impedance, is similar to that of the US components. The atmospheric pressure sensor is connected between b10 and a20 ground. Voltage as such is not involved. The answer would be for someone to provide the resistance of the sensor, then use a potentiometer somewhat in excess of this resistance for experimental purposes as Phil has suggested. No figure is provided in the manual I have. Cheers, Trevor.
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P.S. After sifting among the mess, am I to understand that an inductive sensor is now fitted, in lieu of Hall Effect sensor, i.e. both types of transducer, are expected to operate properly, from/within the same, existing, magnetic field? Is there in fact documentary evidence, that the three wire sensor is a Hall Effect device, and if not what evidence is available?
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Nga mihi nui, Trevor.
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Alex,
Have you seen this Post No. #35? Have you arranged to get a US TCU?
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I already shipped him the turn signals as he notified me that he had already lined up a purchase with someone else for the TCU before seeing my post
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Yes the TCU are on the Way. I will get this in few days i hope.
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I am doing my best to help Alex out of his jamb, but I do not have access to any data or physical evidence relative to the US system. What activates the external transducer/sensor in the US transmission, e.g. a gear tooth, magnetic component or what? Thanks in anticipation, Trevor.
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Post #6 Harvey. He has done the No.2 speed sensor swap Phil, so it is set up to run with the VTD TCU Post #75 Tom My bet is going to be he has a 2 wire VSS2 in the trans now because that is what the Legacy used, he is going to need an SVX style sensor You were on the money Tom. As I see it still another error was made, and the speed sensor originally in the transmission supplied by Jason, should have been retained. Or was this a Legacy sensor and not suitable?
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--------- the transmission supplied by Jason, should have been retained. Or was this a Legacy sensor and not suitable?"
I am trying to ascertain whether the sensor Alex has in the transmission as supplied, must be replaced, and if so, exactly what he should fit. i.e. would the Legacy sensor, originally in the transmission, not be suitable; e.g. if Jason sent this free of charge, as he should do, would this match the US TCU now being installed?
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No, the two wire legacy sensor is not compatible to the 3 wire SVX TCU. I believe the 2 wire is a hall effect sensor while the 3 wire is an inductive found on newer models. They are pretty pricey new but easy to find used as just about all Subarus with an external speedo like it use our sensor post model year '99
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