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Old 09-10-2002, 05:50 AM
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Throttle Body Modification

I do not know if this has been done before on this forum, but what I did is bypass the cooling lines that run to the throttle body. I got the idea from a guy I work with, who did this on his camaro (sad ride). He has had no negative results and only positive results especially compared to when the engine is hot. There is no valve that adusts or shuts off the flow of coolant flowing through the throttle body, so when the engine is hot, your heating up the already hot air entering the engine therefore reducing horsepower. You all get the drift.
To do this mod. I removed the plastic intake tube, removed the rubber hoses going to the throttle body, and then used 3/8 hose and ran it from where both hoses originally connected at the block and clamped each side securely. Upon trial, I noticed after repeated redline runs that there is less hesitation on the low end. I am sure the air entering the engine is a lot cooler now with the absence of 170 degree coolant flowing around it. Let me know what you think, Greg
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Old 09-10-2002, 08:14 AM
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I did that on my Corvette. The TB is alot cooler to touch now then before, so I guess the air coming in would be a little cooler. It didn't do anything for the power though
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Old 09-10-2002, 09:01 AM
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There's a little thing called 'icing' that does occur in some areas. As a gas passes through a small area it speeds up and when it expands on the other side it cools - same principle a/c works on. when it comes to throttle plates, be it carbureted or fuel injected, there's a chance in cold climates that extended high-speed driving (read: interstate travel) can cause ice to form in the t-body and not allow the throttle to close. Sometimes the ice will grow so thick that the engine loses power due to the restriction.

While you may never experience this in your neck of the woods, some cars, even if they were sold in Phoenix, may someday go on a skiing vacation in the mountains. I used to live in Colorado and although I never had the problem I did have a few customers that had removed or lost their pre-heater hoses and spent some wonderful vista time on the side of I-70 coming home from skiing.
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Old 09-10-2002, 09:34 AM
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i have done this mod, and done it with the dsm no need for it here in florida its 100 degrees LOL ..

i had to clean the throtle body and IAC motor was acting up so i had it complelty off so might as well do it,, not shure on performance gains, i know it helped to a pointe, maybe 3 hp.. i dunno..

its kinda of a pain to do , i would only do it if u have the throtle body off
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Old 09-10-2002, 11:35 AM
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This is a neat idea for warmer climates. It ocurred to me that folks in these climates don't get to take advangtage of the 30-40 degree night air that makes your car feel extra-energetic in the fall and winter. My GTP is very much this way. The supercharger just magnifies the effect. Last fall, coming home from work in pittsburgh...on the first chilly night for the season...i was getting on 376W from the 22 ramp (there are two interchanges in one place there so i always have to really step on it), and when i put the pedal down to where i usually have to, the car felt like it just got a new engine or something...i actually backed off the throttle cause it surprised the crap out of me. So i imagine the coolant bypass would have a somewhat similiar effect in warmer climates.
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Old 09-10-2002, 12:04 PM
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i have done this mod, and done it with the dsm no need for it here in florida its 100 degrees LOL ..

i had to clean the throtle body and IAC motor was acting up so i had it complelty off so might as well do it,, not shure on performance gains, i know it helped to a pointe, maybe 3 hp.. i dunno..

its kinda of a pain to do , i would only do it if u have the throtle body off
I have done this mod, and DID it with the dsm. There is no need for it here in FL because its 100 degrees. LOL

I had to clean the throttle body and IAC engine was acting up and I had it completely off so I figured I might as well do it. Not SURE on performance gains; I know it helped to a POINT, maybe 3 hp, I dunno.

IT'S kind of a pain to do, I would only do it if you have the THROTTLE body off already.

This translation from Solaringrish to regular English brought to you by Ca$h.
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Old 09-10-2002, 12:14 PM
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cash go away .. im tired of reporting u too the moderators and im shure no one aperciates this..
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Old 09-10-2002, 12:38 PM
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sure.... appreciates.... hrm. I think that's what you meant.

I'm tired of you sending me private messages with you calling me KID when you can't spell a word 5 letters long.

Anyway. All in all I don't think the benefits of cooling your TB would be worth the risk involved, especially if you ever sell your car. If the other owner doesn't know, and decides to go into the mountains...eesh.

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Old 09-10-2002, 12:59 PM
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sure.... appreciates.... hrm. I think that's what you meant.

I'm tired of you sending me private messages with you calling me KID when you can't spell a word 5 letters long.

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Words cannot descripe just how stupid that is.
Sure, it's more than five letters, but, I expected better from you.
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Old 09-10-2002, 01:01 PM
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I have done this mod, and DID it with the dsm. There is no need for it here in FL because its 100 degrees. LOL

I had to clean the throttle body and IAC engine was acting up and I had it completely off so I figured I might as well do it. Not SURE on performance gains; I know it helped to a POINT, maybe 3 hp, I dunno.

IT'S kind of a pain to do, I would only do it if you have the THROTTLE body off already.

This translation from Solaringrish to regular English brought to you by Ca$h.

Yeah, <shrug> whatever.
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Ca$h, I wish to retract my earlier statement that "I do not doubt that you are a nice person". Of all the people I have come across on the internet, you are the most opinionated and abrasive. You remind me of my 15 year old when he doesn't get enough sleep. Will you ever learn some social manners? You may be smart, but you are definitely unpleasant to be around. Many members have tried to offer you some objective advice on how to get along with others, all to no avail.
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Old 09-10-2002, 02:14 PM
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I get along with most people. I'll be honest here. I don't get along with solar (surprise). Know why?

1. He's a moron.
2. He has repeatedly insulted me.
3. He blames his pathetic grasp of English on his keyboard (sure)
4. He's a typical stupid person who is SO dumb they don't even realize when someone is smarter than them. I BLATENTLY and calmly explained why higher octane does not help, multiple times. He basically told me that I was dumb.
5. He puts words in my mouth, he wrote me a PM about how I was saying a neon would beat a Eclipse Turbo AWD (Gst I think?), which I never said.
6. He keeps saying that neons are so slow, yet they're about as fast as an SVX.

So yeah, I think he's a retard, and I don't like him.

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Old 09-10-2002, 02:23 PM
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I get along with most people. I'll be honest here. I don't get along with solar (surprise). Know why?

1. He's a moron.
2. He has repeatedly insulted me.
3. He blames his pathetic grasp of English on his keyboard (sure)
4. He's a typical stupid person who is SO dumb they don't even realize when someone is smarter than them. I BLATENTLY and calmly explained why higher octane does not help, multiple times. He basically told me that I was dumb.
5. He puts words in my mouth, he wrote me a PM about how I was saying a neon would beat a Eclipse Turbo AWD (Gst I think?), which I never said.
6. He keeps saying that neons are so slow, yet they're about as fast as an SVX.

So yeah, I think he's a retard, and I don't like him.

- Ca$h

Though I enjoy these intellectual English lessons, and how to point out retards, and morons and the like, I would have to say that I find them to be less than enjoyable, and I am frankly, getting bored with them. Let me see if I can find the word here . . . hmmmm . . . uhm . . . <I'm looking through my dictiionary. I don't want to misspell anything> . . . AH! There it is. S-O-P-H-O-M-O-R-I-C. Yes! That's it. That's the word I was looking for. Sophomoric! So, yeah, <shrug> whatever.
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Old 09-10-2002, 02:24 PM
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cash i have never ever insulted u.. if did i apoligize i put a strong foot down, i have never called u a moron,, stupid,, ediot,, in any of my posts if i have im sorry.

u have eagrly assulted //and insulted me on your pms also wich i have done canceled any new ones u sent me

im not the only one who has problems with cash keli has also and a few others..

if u praise on your neon so much u should have kept it this is a subaru svx bb.. i have steped over the line a few times abought my dsm days that are long gone but svx bb is open on some things.. i talk abought my svx with dsm guys as well its all in good tastes

as for my typing, i type fast for one, i have a the new keyboard steup wich is difrent then im use to.. if it disturbes u soo much on how i type dont read it ignore..

i have repeatly said "now can we get to the subject at hand" to not let it get out of control but seem to go right past u..


i formely apoligize to any members that have been offended but that has hapened,..

im not here to argue with cash dont care to be honest

adminstrators have to close out valuable threads, i was puting everything behind me until u consitantly insult me.. get over it and ignore my posts
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Old 09-10-2002, 03:05 PM
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Uh, enough with the drivel guys, if ya wanna make out, get a private room. For the rest of us there's a little feature (actually a godsend) called an ignore list.
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