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Old 05-07-2010, 05:06 AM
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Unhappy 5 speed swap dead, need help!!!

Ok here is the deal. I used a 5 speed transmission out of a 1997 impreza 2.2L for my 5 speed swap with a cable clutch. Tranny has locked up and I now need to replace it. I've been told that all 5 speeds in these subarus have the same strength in gears and that the only difference is that the 1 and 2 gear sets have a different gear ratio in order to handle the difference in torque for the turbo'd cars and 2.5L cars. Is this true? If not what is the difference? What transmission is a direct replacement that I can use with out having to re-fabricate every thing again as I do not want to do that. I wouldn't mind just rebuilding the thing and putting the different gearset in it if this is the case. If not were can I go to get the parts to rebuild this transmission to handle the torque of this 3.3L. If it is easier just to put another transmission in than that is what I would rather do. All in all I don't want to have to do all the work again in order to replace this and I don't want that weak transmission in my car any more. What year and make cars are a direct swap for this transmission for my setup that will handle this power if there is one. If not than were can I get the parts to build this model to handle the torque of my car as I am at about 215-220tq estimated in my car at the moment. I could really use the help as I need my car back because i have to drive 60 miles a day to work and back. So to sum it up, are there any direct replacements for this year and model transmission that I have used that will handle my power and also where can I get the parts to just rebuild this model to handle the power of this motor if I decide just to rebuild it? Some one please help I new the thing wouldn't last very long but I didn't think it would be dead with in a week.

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Old 05-07-2010, 05:22 AM
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Re: 5 speed swap dead, need help!!!

If you stay with the cable clutch I think your options are limited.
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Old 05-07-2010, 07:20 AM
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Re: 5 speed swap dead, need help!!!

everyone is doing the WRX swaps. i'm sure the crossmember will have to be redone, as well as the clutch setup since the WRX uses a different style pressure plate and a hydraulic clutch. and that 97impreza (4.11 ratio) has a different gear ratio than the 02 wrx (3.9 ratio) so if you swap to the wrx you'll have to change
1. clutch setup/pedal box setup
2. cross member to wrx mounts
3. shift linkage probly
4. rear diff gear ratio.

here's some stuff i found
90-94 Legacy 5spd: 4.111FD
95-99 Legacy 2.2L; excluding 2.5L: 3.900
96-99 Legacy 2.5GT/Outback 2.5L: 4.111
93-95 Impreza 1.8L: 4.111FD
96-01 Impreza 2.2L: 3.900
98-01 Impreza 2.5L: 4.111
02-03 Impreza 2.5RS: 4.111
04+ Impreza 2.5RS SPORT: 4.111
02+ Impreza 2.5TS/OBS: 3.900
04+ Impreza 2.5RS(non-sport): 3.900

Aside from the Fit-modifications, there are some that do not require you to swap rear Diff ratios..
hope this helps.
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Old 05-07-2010, 11:15 AM
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Re: 5 speed swap dead, need help!!!

The WRX 5-speed has the same housing as any of the Subie 5-speed, so you cross member will work for any of them...might have to swap the mount depending on the year.

To use a turbo'd cars tranny, you will have to install a hydraulic pedal set-up.
But any Non-Turboed Subie tranny (even the hydraulic ones) can be used as a cable tranny, by switching the clutch forks.
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Old 05-07-2010, 11:39 AM
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Re: 5 speed swap dead, need help!!!

that's some good info! i never knew you can use a different clutch fork... hmm then again i've never thought to even try learn somethin new every day!
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Old 05-07-2010, 03:00 PM
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Re: 5 speed swap dead, need help!!!

Ok so than as I take it I can just use any wrx non turbo tranny 5 speed change out the clutch fork and mount. Can I use the clutch, pressure plate, driveline And shifter linkage off of my setup? I just don't want to have to buy all those again as I already have 600$ in them alone. Any one know where I can just buy the internals for that case already in my car that will hold up to the power my car is producing? What internals will I have to replace besides the ones that are already ruined to hold up to this motor under rough driveing? If I just go with a wrx tranny what year tranny would verge best for this change?

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