[svxistentialist]

I've just been on a training event in Yorkshire for a couple of days, spent way too much time in airports.

One of the sales guys came from Dundee, but could not get his BMW 3 series to climb out of the hotel car park. Same as the Merc problem Phil mentioned I'm thinking. Wide rear tyres, loads of torque and possibly front weight bias with rear drive.

Rear drive cars probably earn their reputation as drivers' cars in any other conditions than snow or ice.

What makes them good on dry or wet roads works against them in low grip situations. [Although, having said that, I would expect if you fitted a set of narrow grippy M&S tyres on them you could have yourself some fun!]

Joe