To clarify, the rims were supposedly 2 months old used on his personal vehicle. Now he says that the paint on them was not from the factory, but aftermarket...something he never told me prior to purchasing them. If I had known they were a non-factory paint I might have asked more questions or maybe even passed. I paid $500 plus shipping, so they were not cheap, just fair priced. Thanks for the ongoing input. Personally, I do not like to go after a vendor through the credit card company, but I did give him an opportunity to rectify the issue, to avail. Anybody want a set of Tenzo's with chipping paint