My thread is a little unclear, I stated that it happens with manual button pressed in. I meant to say that it ALSO occurs with the man button on. I also put the fwd fuse in, and it happend as well then, but not as pronounced. The awd system works fine, there is no front tire spin at all, in any gear. I think the prob could still be the driveshaft. I have checked it for mud and anything else that could cling to the shaft but did not find anything, I also turned the shaft, pushed and pulled and it did not have any excessive play, but then again I cannot apply 200 pounds of tourque at the twist of a wrist. I think I will just pull it out tomorrow and visually inspect it. I will let everyone know what I find.