[svxistentialist]

Originally Posted by LetItSnow

I didn't intend to imply that anything has been settled. Can anything be settled? Without intentions of taking this more awry, the question that I have is about exactly what this thread is for?

Magazine statistics?

Legitimate data?

Bragging rights and personal preference?

If it's one of the first two, and the cars vary by domestic market, then that should be sorted out, as well.

"Debate" and "truth" can't coexist, anyway.

I'm not a fan of magazine racing. Top speed calculations are tangible numbers, but I don't know how many of us break 136 miles per hour to use it as much more than "look what I got" numbers. Personal preference is a foregone conclusion. We seem to have gone in these three directions in this thread.

You are spot on what you say here, and there is always a dichotomy in magazine tests between what has actually been "measured" in performance tests, and what is subjective opinion.

All three directions are valid debating points IMO taking the title at its broadest sense.

My first car was JDM, and I did test the limiter BTW, so I can say with certainty that when you hit it, you know it. It cuts the sparks, like having the engine die.

What red lightning is describing is the car not being able to pull beyond 132 mph or so, and this is not a limiter or a governor.

I think we all need to take what we think are performance figures for our cars with a pinch of salt. When the manufacturers supply cars to journos for testing, they have usually been fettled and blueprinted and optimised to give good test results. We could all knock a few mph off what we think our cars can do, and add a few seconds to the elapsed times, it would be more realistic.

Joe