I looked at the idiot indicator on the maintenance free delco battery and it appeared green. Just confirmed that the battery is indeed dead with a volt meter. Thank you for the quick replies and I am some what sheepish that I didn't reseach this problem better before posting. I did thou fine a wonderful site which I will try and visit, maybe to share the tale of five replaced rear axle bearings or the moving idler pulley on a car that was always serviced by "subaru trained" machanics.