Yes, I figured that Joe was the oldest owner. I ask him whether he had a puter but his reply was "Hell no, I still can;'t figure out how the telephone works." I did tell him about the web site but it fell on deaf ears. His life revolves around drinking beer and shooting pool. His health is starting to fade but all in all for 88 he is doing well. His Red SVX is in tip top shape but he likes mine better. He likes the silver and black. I am pretty certain that his will be put away soon as the snow will be flying soon. He only takes her out on nice days.