very true, me and the guy at the subaru dealership were talking, and he was talking about the 5 speed, and stated that he would go towards the 6 speed. hey says that the 5 speed is good for the wrx, but says if i plan to do "stuff" to the svx it couldnt handle the torque. he also said they have only had one bad 6 speed yet, where as they have fixed 5, 5 speeds this month. but the price difference is almost enough to make me get the 5 speed. 6000 vs. ebay 600. ???? what would u do