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Old 12-06-2016, 09:53 AM
SoobCrazy SoobCrazy is offline
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Re: the newest thing NOT HID / but LED

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Originally Posted by Motorsport-SVX View Post
Dude, you are an idiot to put it bluntly...
the only way they are LEGAL is if they where DOT approved, due to cost get get something made DOT legal.
D00d, you are more wrong than you know. Stick to selling cheap dash overlays, oversized exhaust tips and BS performance upgrades, because you are obviously a better salesperson than engineer.

Even if these PnP companies had deep pockets and were willing to go through the DOT certification process, they would fail. Not because they didn't have the money to "pay" for a certification, but because the PHYSICS behind it are all screwed up.

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Originally Posted by Motorsport-SVX View Post
If its never challenged by local authorities then people will keep buying and selling them, hence what we do. Since we dont sell the colorful ones ie 8k or or higher, we have never put our customers at risk of getting a ticket or fine in 13+ yrs, me personally or our customers.
Like Tireiron said, just because there is no law against selling them, doesn't mean its legal to install them. You can buy and sell guns, but you can't use them on people, same idea; legal to sell, but not necessarily legal to use on the highway.

Also, police are more interested in doing actual police work vs. chasing around some kid in a civic for installing illegal HIDs in his first car... The color has nothing to do with the legality or safety of the HID kit, I'll say it again, IT HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH THE PHYSICAL GEOMETRY OF THE BULB AND THE HOUSING.

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Originally Posted by Motorsport-SVX View Post
The HOUSING as you put it, has zero to do with it. Dont try to hijack my thread if you dont know what you are talking about. The simple problem with any forum out there.
Which brings us back to this asinine statement. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about and deserve to be hijacked for aiding and abetting in the purchase and installation of OFF-HIGHWAY equipment onto road-going vehicles.

Do us all a favor, study up and stop embarrassing yourself by making sophomoric posts about topics you don't understand.

This is a great source that accurately explains the problem with PnP HID/LED kits.

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The most dangerous part of the attempt to "retrofit" Xenon headlamps is that sometimes you get a deceptive and illusory "improvement" in the performance of the headlamp. The performance of the headlamp is perceived to be "better" because of the much higher level of foreground lighting (on the road immediately in front of the car). However, the beam patterns produced by this kind of "conversion" virtually always give less distance light, and often an alarming lack of light where there's meant to be a relative maximum in light intensity. The result is the illusion that you can see better than you actually can, and that's not safe.

Last edited by SoobCrazy; 12-06-2016 at 10:15 AM.
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