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Originally Posted by Phast SVX
Just remember, you don't learn things from challenging other peoples opinions, you learn them from challenging your own. Sitting here and "rubbing it in" no doubt is setting yourself up,weather you arein reality correct or not. Where there is nothing to be gained, there is usually much to be lost.
~phil
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I agree with you 100%, and if the current administration had taken this advice, we wouldn't be in this mess with debt up to our neck and stranded in Iraq.
So it boils down to this. When Bush popped up with the tax cuts, I, along with others said "hey! hold on, we just went through 10 years of cuts to get here, don't blow it on tires, reduce our debt like the original plan was." The right said "It's our money, they'll just spend it, we want our money back" and they did an unresponsible tax cut, and have increased the debt ceiling THREE TIMES.
When 9/11 happened, I, along with others said "Hey! how did this happen? We pay a bundle yearly to keep this from happening!" The right replied "The terrorist did it, not us. Support your president", and the only one fired over this security mishap is Bill Maher.
When Iraq popped up, I said, along with others, "Hey, what does this have to do with the crisis? There's no justification to put our troops there! Remember what Bush Senior said about going into Baghdad, we will get stuck!" The right replied "You are being unpatriotic, support your troops, and support your president during this time of crisis."
All three times, I, along with others, scratched our heads and said "huh?"
All three have turned out to be huge mistakes in judgement, that we will continue paying for.... all of us.... for several years to come.
So, is it rubbing it in now? Well.... Yeah, I guess it is. But unfortunately, I have to pay for this mess along with all the ones that caused it. So we can call this "rubbing in" a taste of what I've been through from the people it offends now.
Those same people have offended me since 9/11 happened. I'm retired military and have had people who've never served a day call me unpatriotic. I've had people look me dead in the eye and say "I can't believe you aren't supporting your president after what's happened!"
This thrill I feel that accountability is starting to occur is pent up frustration from years of fighting against bad decisions, with absolutely no power against a right controlled government...all 3 branches... and yes, the thrill honestly feels good. I still have to pay the price along with all of us, and that price is overwhelming and not even close to being paid, but the vindication feels good.
What feels even better is I know this is only the beginning. Before it is all over, there will eventually be accountability also for allowing 9/11 to happen. As soon as the right looses control of the house, this will happen. Is that important? Absolutely. The terrorist did the crime, but there was a system that failed us that allowed it to be planned and executed without one lousy act by our government to stop it. Every terrorists involved set up shop after Bush was elected. Several warnings were shooting across his desk at his ranch. It took over 5 hours from the time the planes were hijacked, until the last one crashed, and not one act was made to stop it.....in 5 hours.. wow.
Bush is ultimately accountable for this. Doesn't matter who was there before, or what occurred, he is accountable. He was even re-elected on the platform that he can protect his citizens, and he must be held accountable for failing in the first place..... and the second place if you count Katrina. It's still a mess down there.
It is true I'm challenging opinions. But honestly..... if your advice was taken by the current administration, things may be different...and better now. At least our national debt wouldn't have doubled.
And Clinton? Yep! No angel there, not at all.