what debate,, ???
i sugest something rob argues and puts his .02 like always i ignore it.
if there a AWD turbo for under 4,000 that runs 13s please let me know other wise,
i guess all these people are stupid and run slow times
http://orl.dsmforum.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2047
this is just in orlando alone, and not the state chapter.