[Landshark]

Originally Posted by mohrds

Its about time Apple gets called on the carpet for their non-user replaceable battery stance. The iPhone is the first cell phone in history to have a non-replaceable battery. I had a bag phone in 1985 that had a replaceable battery.

Apple makes devices with built in batteries simply as a future profit generating measure, nothing more. Lithium Ion batteries have a great power capacity at the expense of an overall short life span. Apple knows this and does not include any refresh, or float maintenance circuitry in their products. Hell, my DeWalt cordless tools have maintenance float chargers with logic controls to keep the battery as close to 100% charge capacity as possible. You can safely "top off" Lion batteries with the proper charger. Apple chooses to to keep the product lifespan short to coincide with their next version hardware release.

Apple knows that the recommended charging/discharging to keep the iPhone at peak performance are not in line with how people will use them. People count on their phone and thus throw it on the charger every night or two to "top it off" so they don't have to worry about it the next day. If you follow Apple's recommendation, you will use the phone down to 8-10% battery capacity, fully charge it, repeat. So use the phone until the recommended charge level, then stop doing business for the next few hours when it is finally discharged to 10% at 9:30 AM? Unrealistic and they plan on that.

Just one more reason that I don't buy into the Apple craze...

Doug

i don't mind so much on the iPod, because its either being powered by my car battery or a wall plug at work - the only two places i use it. there could be no battery at all and it wouldn't really affect me.

a cell phone with a "permanent" battery on the other hand, is just plain retardo.