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svxboy 09-17-2002 05:24 PM

EBC brakes finally figured out
 
Alright, just got off the phone with TIRE RACK. Already have the front EBC "Green Stuff" Pads, part #6691. They do not show up on Tire Rack's page but they do show for a 93 Nissan Pathfinder which are the same exact pad the SVX uses.
The rears are part #2821. They show up for a 95 Subaru Legacy which uses the exact same rear pad as our SVX. Both cars use the exact same rear calipers, but use different rotors.
If your not familiar with EBC brake pads, they are considered one of the best. They use a blend of Kevlar and Avalar and contain no semi-metallic material, thus they are easier on your rotors. They say they have 80% less dusting, and have a higher friction rating for better performance without tearing up the rotor.
-Greg

elninoalex 09-17-2002 05:46 PM

Cost?
 
What do they cost?

svxboy 09-17-2002 05:49 PM

I knew I forgot something
 
They are $59.99 each set. Depending where you live, shipping and handeling may be different. I paid $67.08 shipped for each set.
-Greg

svxboy 09-17-2002 05:55 PM

BREMBO ROTORS ON EBAY
 
It looks like a good deal. All four for $250.00, Drilled, slotted, and plated. Has anybody bought these yet? Let me know what you all think.
-Greg

immortal_suby 11-03-2002 09:44 AM

Any update on how the EBC pads are doing?
I have the slotted ebay rotors and bendix pads. They do much better than stock at repeated high speed stops but running with the wrx/ rs guys from 60 - 110 - 70 - 110 - 60mph for 30 miles in atlanta traffic yesterday and they eventually did heat up and start to fade.

mattski 11-03-2002 09:47 PM

Re: BREMBO ROTORS ON EBAY
 
Quote:

Originally posted by svxboy
It looks like a good deal. All four for $250.00, Drilled, slotted, and plated. Has anybody bought these yet? Let me know what you all think.
-Greg

Do a search and you should find a lot of discussion on the subject. There is a strong opinion that drilling affects the cooling properties and can also increase the chance of cracking. Contact the seller and they would probably just slot and plate them.

Matt

Landshark 11-03-2002 10:56 PM

i read an ad for EBC pads a while back and they have different models of pads - Green, Red, etc. from what i remember, Green weren't the ones i would go with. there seemed to be a better choice for performance street driving, but i can't remember why - dust, pad life, etc. i'll try and find more info.

Landshark 11-03-2002 11:53 PM

from Tire Rack:
"EBC Redstuff Sport/Track disc brake pads are designed for heavier sports cars, coupes and sedans used for fast high performance road driving and “track days.” as well as some race applications for light and medium weight vehicles. EBC's semi-metallic Redstuff formulation is a true asphalt race pad with a medium lifetime.

EBC Redstuff pads (friction level of 0.3µ) used on the street will feel more like standard original brakes (typical friction level of 0.25µ to 0.35µ). EBC Redstuff pads offer high resistance to brake fade and a friction level that steadily rises with temperature to reach 0.33µ at 1380° Fahrenheit. This makes them appropriate for extreme high speed driving and repetitive heavy braking use, as well as, for racecars. Redstuff brake pads provide longer pad life than Greenstuff brake pads under extreme conditions with virtually no brake rotor abrasion and wear.

Features and Benefits of Redstuff

Friction co-efficient starting at 0.3µ and rising to 0.33µ once warm
Medium initial bite with friction steadily increasing with heat
Heat stable to an incredible 1380° Fahrenheit
Low disc abrasion"

maybe i thought these would be better than the Green's because i saw the "for heavier sports cars" thing. SVX's would fall into that category :D

sfsvx 11-04-2002 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Landshark
from Tire Rack:
"EBC Redstuff Sport/Track disc brake pads are designed for heavier sports cars, coupes and sedans used for fast high performance road driving and “track days.” as well as some race applications for light and medium weight vehicles. EBC's semi-metallic Redstuff formulation is a true asphalt race pad with a medium lifetime.

EBC Redstuff pads (friction level of 0.3µ) used on the street will feel more like standard original brakes (typical friction level of 0.25µ to 0.35µ). EBC Redstuff pads offer high resistance to brake fade and a friction level that steadily rises with temperature to reach 0.33µ at 1380° Fahrenheit. This makes them appropriate for extreme high speed driving and repetitive heavy braking use, as well as, for racecars. Redstuff brake pads provide longer pad life than Greenstuff brake pads under extreme conditions with virtually no brake rotor abrasion and wear.

Features and Benefits of Redstuff

Friction co-efficient starting at 0.3µ and rising to 0.33µ once warm
Medium initial bite with friction steadily increasing with heat
Heat stable to an incredible 1380° Fahrenheit
Low disc abrasion"

maybe i thought these would be better than the Green's because i saw the "for heavier sports cars" thing. SVX's would fall into that category :D

Alan, did Tire Rack include similar info on the Greenstuff, for comparison?

svxboy 11-04-2002 05:11 PM

ebc pads
 
EBC does not make a "Red Stuff" application for the SVX. The "Green Stuff" pads offer a higher friction coefficient anyway, even though they will wear out faster. With the SVX rotors, you could never achieve the full benefits if the red stuff, because the rotors would warp to hell first.
-Greg

Landshark 11-04-2002 10:48 PM

Re: ebc pads
 
Quote:

Originally posted by svxboy
EBC does not make a "Red Stuff" application for the SVX. The "Green Stuff" pads offer a higher friction coefficient anyway, even though they will wear out faster. With the SVX rotors, you could never achieve the full benefits if the red stuff, because the rotors would warp to hell first.
-Greg

what about ART cryo rotors? :D if they don't make 'em for the SVX it doesn't matter anyway.

Landshark 11-04-2002 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dick Young


Alan, did Tire Rack include similar info on the Greenstuff, for comparison?

yeah, there's a writeup for the green ones on there, too.

htyei 11-05-2002 02:04 AM

set as in front and backs? ($59)

immortal_suby 11-06-2002 03:40 PM

Re: ebc pads
 
Quote:

Originally posted by svxboy
EBC does not make a "Red Stuff" application for the SVX. The "Green Stuff" pads offer a higher friction coefficient anyway, even though they will wear out faster. With the SVX rotors, you could never achieve the full benefits if the red stuff, because the rotors would warp to hell first.
-Greg

So - how do you like them so far?

lee 11-06-2002 05:58 PM

I bought my SVX with a nearly new set on it. I got a pile of receipts from the PO, but none with a brake job so I have no idea how long they had been on the car.

While I wouldn't consider myself a "spirited" automobile driver, I can report the brakes live up to their claim of very low dust. When I wash my car I find about as much brake dust on the front (with the green pads) as on the rear (conventional). Something I've never seen before as the fronts, to my experience, usually have a much greater dust problem. maybe you have other experiences.

I've put 7K miles on them so far, seem to be lasting quite well, but since I've not been through a full set can't make a definitive statement there.


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