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TomsSVX 04-16-2005 02:28 PM

5mt queery? cable or hydro
 
I am looking for a new trans. Mine has not detonated yet but I will need one in the short future.

My question is this. What make model and year Subaru's had either a cable or a push style hydro activated clutch with 4.11 gears. I wanna find a good one with low mileage and need somewhere to start. Thnx for any info.

Tom

Green1995SVX 04-16-2005 05:44 PM

Hey bud... It's "query." Some people might get the wrong idea. ;)

Mike

Electrophil 04-16-2005 06:40 PM

Heh.. Satin bolt covers and velour covered cables. Heh, heh. :p

mbtoloczko 04-16-2005 09:38 PM

If your intent is to use this tranny with LAN's SC, then you should be considering either a late model 5MT that can accept STi RA gears (hydro clutch), a very late model WRX tranny (2003+ that has beefed up gears), or you should be considering a 6MT.

Chiketkd 04-17-2005 06:53 AM

Over on the www.legacygt.com and www.subaruforester.com forums no member has reported breaking a 5MT on a 2.5GT or Forester XT. I'm not sure if this is the exact same 5spd in the '03+ WRX, but Subaru's marketing info says it's stronger to deal with the extra torque from a turbo'd 2.5L engine.

-Chike

TomsSVX 04-17-2005 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbtoloczko
If your intent is to use this tranny with LAN's SC, then you should be considering either a late model 5MT that can accept STi RA gears (hydro clutch), a very late model WRX tranny (2003+ that has beefed up gears), or you should be considering a 6MT.

I do not plan on running the Stage III SC system. I may pick up the stage II nitrous system this summer if all goes well. I also don't want to have to convert my pedals to hydro either as they are setup nicely for a cable. Maybe I can get someone to make me a hydro set of pedals, as I don't feel like doing it myself :D Anyway I am looking for a replacement trans as mine is on the way out and I need to know what model cars to search. If anyone has that info please splurge it on me :D :D :D . Wow I am really goin along with this Queery thing.

Tom

mbtoloczko 04-17-2005 11:03 AM

The part numbers for the FXT gears and the '03-'04 WRX gears are identical, so its fair to assume that with the exception of the diff ratio, the FXT and '03-'04 WRX trannies are identical. The FXT can handle more power because the 4.444 final drive reduces the stresses on the gears by 13%. If someone doesn't mind the higher rpms associated with using the FXT tranny, then that's a good choice too.

The '05 Legacy GT gear ratios are identical to the STi non-RA gear ratios, so its a fair bet that the gears in that car are STi non-RA. Those gears are probably about as strong as the '03-'04 WRX gears. And again, the '05 Legacy GT has a 4.11 diff ratio which will reduce the load on the gears by about 5%. This tranny would be a good choice too if you could find one.

I've heard some discussion about the '05 Legacy GT case being stronger, but I haven't seen any proof yet. Someone mentioned that Subaru was using a girdle, but I've got a '05 Legacy GT brochure that has a full page picture of the '05 Legacy driveline, and there's no girdle on the tranny. Maybe Subaru didn't put it in the picture. Maybe its just a rumor.

TomsSVX 04-17-2005 11:17 AM

what about the clutch operation? hydro push or pull? cable? I really don't want to change up my pedals.

Tom

THAWA 04-25-2005 07:06 PM

90-94 legacys NA are 4.111 with the cable setup, but as said in this thread: http://www.subaru-svx.net/forum/showthread.php?t=25672 You can convert at least some hydro pushers to cable pushers.

TomsSVX 04-25-2005 08:33 PM

y not use hydro?? cuz i don't wanna make new pedals and drill holes in my firewall.

Tom

svxpert 04-25-2005 08:45 PM

hole
 
<<y not use hydro?? cuz i don't wanna make new pedals and drill holes in my firewall.>>

with any manual conversion of the SVX, your going to have to drill holes in the firewall. I used a cable clutch and I just had to drill one hole. If your using hydro clutch, you have to drill at least one also.

TomsSVX 04-25-2005 09:02 PM

I already have the cable conversion done. THis is only if i wanna get a new tranny.

TOm

THAWA 04-25-2005 09:53 PM

I see, why do you have to make pedals? Does the hydraulic setup not fit? What part is wrong?

TomsSVX 04-26-2005 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by THAWA
I see, why do you have to make pedals? Does the hydraulic setup not fit? What part is wrong?


I aksed Jesse(Subafreak) this questions when i found out he was doing his 6mt conversion. I mentioned that it was a good idea dn asked if I could use my cable pedals for a hydro setup and he said definately not. So, I i wanna go hydro, i gotta make new pedals

Tom

THAWA 04-26-2005 09:28 PM

I think we may be miscommunicating. I understand there is a difference between hydro pedals and cable pedals. I was asking why you have to MAKE the pedals, instead of being able to buy them.


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