I have Toca, Pro race driver, and GT3 i think both have there advatages. I like the braking, the car view, the damage, the fact your racing for a team, and the computers you race are aculy smart and dont jsut plow into you and they get revenge. But GT3 i think has better physiscs, (the AWD ones in toca just fell weird) you fell so connected to the car you know whats it going to do, but i hate the views, and the computers piss me off.

But GT4 is going to have the compete Nurburgring so its going to have to be good.

what the hell does that mean anyway?

i meant this...what does this mean....cant figure out the last couple of letters :rolleyes:

Earthworm, you play R: Racing Evolution on a PS2? I tried it and couldn't get the car to handle worth a damn. I tried changing all the setting and that didn't work either. I gave it to a friend of mine who is a master of car games and he hated it as well. I played TOCA 2 on his PC and it is incredible.

XBOX actually. I've been trying most of the racing games for the XBOX. I like PGR (aka Metropolis Street Racer) and Sega GT 2002. I also like R Racing Evolution for it's originality. It is a little tough to handle the cars but I also think this would be closer to realism. (ie. not just full throttle/brake all the time)

I'm still a fan of the entire Colin McRae Rally series.

(Any racing game with an SVX in it is good in my books :D)

Do you play any of them on XBox Live, David?

That maybe the difference. On PS2 R: absolutely sucks! So far no Xbox driving game really impressed me. GT2002 wasn't bad and Gotham 2 wasn't worth the hype. I'd like to try TOCA, but the PC version of TOCA 2 is beyond belief. I can't wait for GT4.

I can't wait till this is out!!!!!


Do we know what the release date is??? Oficially??? I need to start saving alittle bit of money for that :D:D:D:

In that site i showed all of you it said Nov 11th but something tells me were going to have to wait a little longer than that. :rolleyes:

Just like GT3 it will probley be pushed back a friken year and you forget about when it comes out.:(

yea i know it sux!

It's already been delayed a considerable amount. GT4 was supposed to be out this spring.

It happens. The last game I worked on got delayed by 8 months.

Anyone know about the AI in GT4? Will it be more like Pro Race Driver? I can't stand GT3 for that reason alone...it's so annoying that they just drive around in a line, and never jockey for position, and never ever EVER make mistakes. It's completley unrealistic.

- Jim

obviously OMGWTFLOLBBQ!1!!1 means:
oh my God, what the f***, laugh out loud, bar-be-que, *really excited exclamation marks*

You must not be a R33t hackzor

http://media.ps2.ign.com/media/489/489327/vids_4.html

Awesome vids! Theres a good vid on page 3 of a new BMW speeding thru NY!