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DJW svx 07-26-2010 10:37 AM

Speaker replacement
 
It would appear that the speakers in my car are crumbling to pieces, Fortunately I have some large speaker suitable for the rear that came out my Pajero Evo and with a bit of cursing have got them in the rear. My car is the CXD with the Panasonic double unit and the cd caddy in the rear. I've popped out the front component tweeters and they fell to pieces but I'm having a problem getting the door cover off to replace the 4-5 inch speakers which are also flapping about does anyone know how to remove the door card? so far I've removed to two screws and popped the fixings but it wont go any further and I don't want to butcher it, also any idea what the wiring is, the tweeter has a resistor am I right in thinking thats signal and the other is earth?

svxcess 07-26-2010 10:54 AM

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Removing the door panel is easy. There are 5 screws.

Open the door and take out the 2 screws on the front edge of the door panel, near the door hinge.

There is another screw located under the door handle, hidden behind the plastic plate which justs pops out with a small-bladed screwdriver (preferably magnetic)

There are also 2 more screws hidden under the felt mat inside the door armrest. Just peel it away to expose the screws, These are the most important ones as they hold the entire armrest to the door frame. You cannot remove the panel with these screws in place.

Once all screws are removed, just pop the clips around the bottom of the door panel my pulling gently. Once free, lift the entire panel up slightly and pull away from the door frame to see the wiring. There are 2 electrical connectors that must be disconnected; one is for the power window switch cluster and one is for the door courtesy light.

Replacement is the reverse order. The only possible minor hassle is lining up the door lock button to slide into the door panel opening, but usually it is not a problem.

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DJW svx 07-26-2010 12:23 PM

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Thank you do you have any idea as to which wires are which for the speakers?

Lookin4SVX 07-26-2010 02:09 PM

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http://ae64.com/AudioInstall-2.htm#2...adioConnPinout

This help? The wires should be the same color on the speaker side as on the radio side. (column A)
Unfortunately I ripped out all the original wiring and ran new wire, so my pics would not be helpful.

Far as the tweeters go, I agree that the filter should be on the + line. So the one without the filter is your ground.
But once again, my pics wont help because I went with aftermarket tweeters with there own external passive crossovers.

DJW svx 07-26-2010 03:56 PM

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Thanks I'm going to work on the basis that the wire with the capacitor is the signal as I'm sure it must be. I have had no trouble with the door speaker as it had + on one and I have replaced that with a 51/2 component that fits just right and I've superglued the new 1 inch tweeter under the existing dash mounted tweeter grill so all looks stock.

1986nate 07-26-2010 04:24 PM

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Just to let you know, the stock speaker is 6 1/2 inches. 5 1/2 would probably work as well though.;)

DJW svx 07-27-2010 02:18 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1986nate (Post 653519)
Just to let you know, the stock speaker is 6 1/2 inches. 5 1/2 would probably work as well though.;)

Yes thats right I did replace them with single component 6 1/2 and a tweeter in the dash. All wired in now and they are not out of phase so I'm just going to enjoy the sounds. Prior to buying the car it was parked up at Subaru's car park for about 8 years so all the speakers were like paper and crumbled the door speakers had no edge so just flapped so its a great impovement.

1986nate 07-27-2010 07:29 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DJW svx (Post 653580)
Yes thats right I did replace them with single component 6 1/2 and a tweeter in the dash. All wired in now and they are not out of phase so I'm just going to enjoy the sounds. Prior to buying the car it was parked up at Subaru's car park for about 8 years so all the speakers were like paper and crumbled the door speakers had no edge so just flapped so its a great impovement.

I know exactly how you feel. The door speakers in my silver were in about the same shape.

svxistentialist 07-27-2010 03:41 PM

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I have always been of the opinion that the original door speakers got raggedy assed because people put new stereos in that had too much RMS watts. Maybe they also got torn because of material degradation? That thought did not occur.

It is commonly accepted that the original door speakers are the weak link, very poor. The large OEM ones on the rear shelf are not too bad, but the door ones are rubbish.

Joe

1986nate 07-27-2010 05:02 PM

Re: Speaker replacement
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by svxistentialist (Post 653643)
I have always been of the opinion that the original door speakers got raggedy assed because people put new stereos in that had too much RMS watts. Maybe they also got torn because of material degradation? That thought did not occur.

It is commonly accepted that the original door speakers are the weak link, very poor. The large OEM ones on the rear shelf are not too bad, but the door ones are rubbish.

Joe

It's because on most cars, the plastic lining that you find inside the door usually goes behind the speakers as well. In the svx, it does not. So when water drains down through the door, it hits the speaker which is made up of a simple paper cone, and it deteriorates. That is my belief and unless it's proven differently, it will be my stance.:D

Lookin4SVX 07-27-2010 09:44 PM

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Check out the surround on my original door speaker.
The paper cone is actually still intact, but the surround became brittle and turned to dust.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1317/...13dd7760_b.jpg

This was still playing music in this condition, Kinda crazy.

1986nate 07-28-2010 12:45 AM

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Lookin: that's what mine looked like too and still played music. I don't know why I said the cone deteriorates:tard:

DJW svx 07-28-2010 01:48 AM

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Yes thats exactly what mine looked like but the little dash mounted tweeters just crumbled, as you say they still worked it was only on the odd bit of heavy bass that you got a sound similar to a fart and thats when I investigated.
I managed to fit a 6 1/2 single component speaker in the door


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