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NiftySVX 08-30-2009 10:18 PM

Who maintains the wikipedia thread?
 
I wish someone would fix the misleading wording of the ACT-4 system. I fixed it years ago and it seems to have been changed back. It was brought to my attention earlier today when discussing my vehicle with a 16 year old kid who recognized the car and tried to tell me his 5-speed WRX was full time and my 4EAT was a part time system

" The first system, called ACT-4 by Subaru, was the same setup commonly found on other Subaru models of the period, and used a variable clutch pack center differential using a 90% / 10% power split front to rear, which could transfer up to a 50% / 50% power split for maximum traction if the front wheels started to slip"

This is misleading. It is VERY important that anyone describing the system uses the words FULL TIME and ACTIVE and that there is an explanation of what each means so the reader will not think that the SVX is a front wheel drive vehicle with the rear wheels being engaged when the fronts slip, as this is a very common misconception as demonstrated to me today, and is even held by some of our members. ACT-4 is dynamic and uses a principle of predictive modeling to anticipate wheel spin. The main goal of the system is to prevent wheel slip.

It should read:

...Is a full time, active AWD system pioneered in the XT6 and still in use on some current models. It incorporates a hydraulic multiplate clutch to vary torque split anywhere between 90% front /10% rear and 50% front/50% rear based on driving conditions as determined by inputs including throttle position, gear position, and wheel speed to an electronic control unit. This system incorporates a forced two wheel drive mode for diagnostic and emissions testing purposes, which was a requirement for passenger cars sold in the United States at the time of the model's introduction.

SoCal LS-L 08-31-2009 12:16 AM

Re: Who maintains the wikipedia thread?
 
Another thing about Wikipedia is that they have incorrect specs regarding the 1992 SVX top speed. I tried to edit it to the correct number (154 by all accounts here), but every time I change it, some person always chages it around... first to 139, then to 143, then to 145 etc etc. After every attemp to correct this, this person is right on it, changing it again after less than 24 hours and referring to some article in Top Speed magazine or something like that.

Going to the discussion page, my last attempt was followed by my assertion that the persons most likely to have the correct information is the members of the largest online forum of SVX enthusiasts, here. Those guys seem to think that the ONE magazine article that they read has the correct top speed for ALL model years (143mph :mad:). I stopped trying, because its obvious that these guys have nothing better to do than be wrong on Wikipedia, and for some reason watch the SVX page like a hawk.

Manarius 08-31-2009 07:21 AM

Re: Who maintains the wikipedia thread?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SoCal LS-L (Post 615809)
Another thing about Wikipedia is that they have incorrect specs regarding the 1992 SVX top speed. I tried to edit it to the correct number (154 by all accounts here), but every time I change it, some person always chages it around... first to 139, then to 143, then to 145 etc etc. After every attemp to correct this, this person is right on it, changing it again after less than 24 hours and referring to some article in Top Speed magazine or something like that.

Going to the discussion page, my last attempt was followed by my assertion that the persons most likely to have the correct information is the members of the largest online forum of SVX enthusiasts, here. Those guys seem to think that the ONE magazine article that they read has the correct top speed for ALL model years (143mph :mad:). I stopped trying, because its obvious that these guys have nothing better to do than be wrong on Wikipedia, and for some reason watch the SVX page like a hawk.

I hate Wiki purists like that. They don't even have the cars and then reference some random magazine forgetting that a lot of magazines are wrong.

zavikan 08-31-2009 11:25 AM

Re: Who maintains the wikipedia thread?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SoCal LS-L (Post 615809)
Another thing about Wikipedia is that they have incorrect specs regarding the 1992 SVX top speed. I tried to edit it to the correct number (154 by all accounts here), but every time I change it, some person always chages it around... first to 139, then to 143, then to 145 etc etc. After every attemp to correct this, this person is right on it, changing it again after less than 24 hours and referring to some article in Top Speed magazine or something like that.

I think the best part is that there is a bone stock svx that has proven shots of 167 mpg :lol:

silly people.

Green1995SVX 08-31-2009 11:28 AM

Re: Who maintains the wikipedia thread?
 
John Hoffman (svxcess) maintains the Wikipedia article.

SoCal LS-L 08-31-2009 11:47 AM

Re: Who maintains the wikipedia thread?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Green1995SVX (Post 615844)
John Hoffman (svxcess) maintains the Wikipedia article.

I dont think he's been there in a while then...... nobody seems to know about this forum.

svxcess 08-31-2009 04:39 PM

Re: Who maintains the wikipedia thread?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Green1995SVX (Post 615844)
John Hoffman (svxcess) maintains the Wikipedia article.

Keeping inaccurate information out of that article is a never-ending job. Sometimes I edit after signing in as svxcess44,, and other times I correct without signing in at all.

For a long time, the moderators there were constantly removing our SVXWN network link in the external links section. They consider personal sites like this as self-promotiom and spam. They are still doing this as of today. See history:

(cur) (prev) 17:31, 31 August 2009 Swaq (talk | contribs) m (16,433 bytes) (Remove link to forum per WP:EL) (undo)


I have performed countless undo's on that article... and have been undone a lot of times as well.

But I'm glad they like seeing the front and back of my Polo as an example of a stock-looking example. The stock engine photo is of Harry Newman's ("newsvx") 97 Brilliant red.


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NiftySVX 09-03-2009 07:20 PM

Re: Who maintains the wikipedia thread?
 
Perhaps I will change it again, but as I told the kid, wikipedia is not considered credible in the academic world. Maybe after I convince everyone here about how it works, I'll start with people outside the network :)

y2daniel1981 09-03-2009 07:33 PM

Re: Who maintains the wikipedia thread?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NiftySVX (Post 616319)
Perhaps I will change it again, but as I told the kid, wikipedia is not considered credible in the academic world. Maybe after I convince everyone here about how it works, I'll start with people outside the network :)

Agreed, that's why whenever I had to write a paper and used wikipedia, I would look to see if any of the statements had a reference, and if they did then double check the reference and use that. I basically use wikipedia as a "middle man."


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