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Jvan 04-24-2015 09:29 AM

MAF sensor swap question
 
My 94 SVX has stalling problem due to the MAF sensor. I have tried to spray clean it but problem still exists. A new one from the dealer is about $400 and ebay lists mostly re-manufactured ones for about $170. Ebay has tons of MAF sensor for Legacy's/Impreza's/Forester's for $23/$60+ and $!00+; the part #'s are almost identical to the SVX # except for the last 4 digits (SVX- AA200 and others are 2 digits/letter and digits ranging from 160 to 201). They all look the same, so are any other Subaru model MAF sensors compatible/swap for the SVX.Subaru raided the parts bin for many other part (Legacy calipers) so I'm sure that they didn't make a MAF sensor just for the limited SVX.

gwynethh 04-24-2015 10:10 AM

Re: MAF sensor swap question
 
Someone said they work just fine except for the very highest rpm/air flow. Fine for everything except maybe the track.

Blacky 04-24-2015 01:16 PM

Re: MAF sensor swap question
 
Did you look at the "How To" for re-soldering the connections inside, it's really simple and works.

1986nate 04-25-2015 12:21 AM

Re: MAF sensor swap question
 
An EJ MAF should only be used for diagnostic. It does not measure the air properly ratioed for the SVX ecu and will run the car lean. This is bad for long term use. So, to confirm yours is bad, and someone has an EJ Subaru with a MAF, go ahead and swap to confirm. Then get a replacement.

Jvan 04-25-2015 05:46 PM

Re: MAF sensor swap question
 
No, I didn't look on how to re soldering since other Subaru MAF sensors were so inexpensive but if the other Subaru Mafs don't work, I'll have to try it. I'm not about to spend $400 for something that can be bought for other cars at a minimal cost.

gwynethh 04-26-2015 05:36 AM

Re: MAF sensor swap question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1986nate (Post 739934)
An EJ MAF should only be used for diagnostic. It does not measure the air properly ratioed for the SVX ecu and will run the car lean. This is bad for long term use. So, to confirm yours is bad, and someone has an EJ Subaru with a MAF, go ahead and swap to confirm. Then get a replacement.

Thanx for the info Nate!

Jvan 05-01-2015 03:58 PM

Re: MAF sensor swap question
 
Searching through some old MAF threads and came across a thread swapping a N62 MAF sensor from a Z32. Is this a recommended swap for a stock engine or do I need to upgrade injectors and more?

icingdeath88 05-01-2015 07:17 PM

Re: MAF sensor swap question
 
You need the whole set - ecutune stage 2 chip, z32 MAF, and 370cc injectors.

1986nate 05-03-2015 01:15 PM

Re: MAF sensor swap question
 
Also, fyi. aftermarket MAFs are around $200 new for the SVX with warranty and work well.

elemgee 05-10-2015 07:38 PM

Re: MAF sensor swap question
 
I recently had a problem similar to yours - my SVX would stall when coming to a stop, or right after I accelerated from a stop. I was getting an engine code 23 which is the MAF sensor. I replaced it with one for a 97 Legacy with the 2.5 liter engine which I got from ebay for around $35. Works just fine. Only very small issue was connecting the electrical plug to the sensor was a tight fit, but thats it. Car has been running fine now for a couple of hundred miles. I just checked and there are a bunch of similar MAFs on ebay.

Jvan 05-10-2015 08:10 PM

Re: MAF sensor swap question
 
I'm very tempted to do the same thing. The new MAF sensors on ebay for other Subaru's are very reasonable but the SVX sensor is way over priced. Even $200+ for an aftermarket isn't reasonable. I'm hesitating because other posts have recommended against using the 4 cylinder sensors. Even the z62 sensor can be purchased new for under $50. I'm driving locally so a few stalls isn't so bad. For $400, I'm going to try to solder the sensor.

92snowmachine 05-10-2015 09:16 PM

Re: MAF sensor swap question
 
try soldering first but it that doesn't work i would run with it disconnected before paying money for the wrong part. if you disconnect it when the car is off it will run with out it. you will run rich because it will set a code and force the car into open loop but it's a lot better than running the chance of going too lean because your maf is the wrong one.

Sean486 05-11-2015 05:20 AM

Re: MAF sensor swap question
 
Buy the Legacy sensor and use that to get the car working. Take the SVX MAF Off and resolder it, or send it to someone to resolder it for you. When done, swap them and put the Legacy MAF on the shelf for backup.

1986nate 05-11-2015 08:16 PM

Re: MAF sensor swap question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by elemgee (Post 740191)
I recently had a problem similar to yours - my SVX would stall when coming to a stop, or right after I accelerated from a stop. I was getting an engine code 23 which is the MAF sensor. I replaced it with one for a 97 Legacy with the 2.5 liter engine which I got from ebay for around $35. Works just fine. Only very small issue was connecting the electrical plug to the sensor was a tight fit, but thats it. Car has been running fine now for a couple of hundred miles. I just checked and there are a bunch of similar MAFs on ebay.

You also risk burning a valve from running lean along with cat converter failures. Which only show up after prolonged running.

oab_au 06-10-2015 08:47 PM

Re: MAF sensor swap question
 
There is a need to clear this up before it becomes "Internet law".:)

The graph the Michael showed, has the two curves for the two Mass Air Flow units, they are very similar, slight different at full voltage readings.
The voltage rises as the air flow increases, the ECU uses this to set the fuel and the spark settings, when the voltage signal reaches maximum reading, the ECU goes to the full throttle settings that apply max fuel and spark setting, for a fully loaded engine.

http://www.subiechips.com/posts/vqComp.gif

The point that people are missing is that the max. voltage reading for the two units are at different air flows. The 3.3 unit reaches full voltage when it is passing 3.3 lts of air. the Legacy reaches max voltage when it passes 2.2lts. of air. So when you fit the Legacy unit to the SVX it goes into full fuel and spark settings when 2.2lts is passing, it then holds this same voltage setting while the last 1.1lts is passed.

So it won't run lean, it will actually run the same full throttle settings as the SVX unit does, only doing it 33% earlier.

Of course this will only happen at full throttle, when in open loop, at normal driving in closed loop, the Svx will use the O2 sensors to use the same settings as it does with its own MAF fitted.


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