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RojoRocket 05-27-2009 01:32 PM

Looking for new "Family" car Acura RL vs M35
 
As the title states, it looks like time for us to buy a "grown up car" to replace the Wagon, and these are the likely candidates. I'm looking at '05-'06 models, and would consider the right M35x as well. I lean toward the RL, slightly smaller feel, with shorter wheelbase, and still adequate back seat room, as I would never have the front seats back much, being of slight stature. I love the idea of cooled seats, available only in the "M", but not a deal-breaker. Otherwise, the 2 appear fairly evenly matched, though the active noise cancellation & SH AWD technology in the RL, as well as slightly better standard sound system make it attractive! Anyone have first-hand experience with either car, and lacking that, opinions and their basis?

Glenn

Mike621 05-27-2009 01:37 PM

Re: Looking for new "Family" car Acura RL vs M35
 
Glenn,

I have assisted with a few glass replacements on the newer RLs, and had to deliver one to a customer once (~15 miles on the highway). I was VERY impressed with the fit, finish, and equipment in the SH model.

maynardg 05-27-2009 02:07 PM

Re: Looking for new "Family" car Acura RL vs M35
 
I had a 2002 Acura TL. I drove it like the old fellow I am. Was on its fourth transmission by 48,000 when I finally got rid of it. Much worse than an SVX. Will never buy a Honda product again.

Mensaf 05-27-2009 03:11 PM

Re: Looking for new "Family" car Acura RL vs M35
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maynardg (Post 603002)
I had a 2002 Acura TL. I drove it like the old fellow I am. Was on its fourth transmission by 48,000 when I finally got rid of it. Much worse than an SVX. Will never buy a Honda product again.

I had the same issue. Once they stopped covering the replacement, I gave mine the axe.

I've been in an M45, and can only assume that the M35 is the same other than the engine. If it is, that is a damn amazing vehicle. Almost overly luxurious. If you live somewhere with snow though, I'd opt for the AWD RL, unless the M35 comes AWD too.

Mike621 05-27-2009 03:15 PM

Re: Looking for new "Family" car Acura RL vs M35
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mensaf (Post 603008)
I had the same issue. Once they stopped covering the replacement, I gave mine the axe.

I've been in an M45, and can only assume that the M35 is the same other than the engine. If it is, that is a damn amazing vehicle. Almost overly luxurious. If you live somewhere with snow though, I'd opt for the AWD RL, unless the M35 comes AWD too.

You can get the RL and M series with all wheel drive, depending on the year. :)

sicksubie 05-27-2009 03:26 PM

Re: Looking for new "Family" car Acura RL vs M35
 
Weren't M35's known for beaing oil leakers??? As far as trannies go on the Acuras, I cannot speak from personal experience, but I will concur with Mike that they are great cars and the AWD is very impressive too...

Mensaf 05-27-2009 04:40 PM

Re: Looking for new "Family" car Acura RL vs M35
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike621 (Post 603010)
You can get the RL and M series with all wheel drive, depending on the year. :)

I realized that right after posting, though I believe the new RLs are only AWD.
Quote:

Originally Posted by sicksubie (Post 603012)
Weren't M35's known for being oil leakers??? As far as trannies go on the Acuras, I cannot speak from personal experience, but I will concur with Mike that they are great cars and the AWD is very impressive too...

I'm not sure of the shortcomings of the VQ35, but it could be possible. The car isn't different mechanically from a standard G35.

Green1995SVX 05-27-2009 06:17 PM

Re: Looking for new "Family" car Acura RL vs M35
 
I would put my vote in for the RL. Hondas hold up MUCH better than Nissans. ;)

RojoRocket 05-27-2009 06:56 PM

Re: Looking for new "Family" car Acura RL vs M35
 
Thanks guys! I'm looking at visiting a local dealer with an RL to get a feel for it at least, probably drive. My Sis-in-Law, 2nd owner of the "original" RojoRocket, replaced her SVX with an '03 G35x, which I've driven and ridden in numerous times. Favorably impressed with the roominess and level of trim, and assume from my close exam of an M45 at a local mall event that there are no issues with the luxury items, though, from recent reviews the VQ motor has lost some of it's original silkiness when rated at 260 bhp compared to new iteration at 300+. My previous experience with Honda/Acura (CRX and G-2 Integra's) would lead me to believe their product to be less boring than the luxo products from Toyota and Nissan. Plus, although rated as "bland" etc, by the magazine guys, I like the RL's styling and tight look.

Glenn

Other opinions, or suggested alternatives in the price range? $17-20K '05-'06

Green1995SVX 05-27-2009 07:49 PM

Re: Looking for new "Family" car Acura RL vs M35
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RojoRocket (Post 603031)
Thanks guys! I'm looking at visiting a local dealer with an RL to get a feel for it at least, probably drive. My Sis-in-Law, 2nd owner of the "original" RojoRocket, replaced her SVX with an '03 G35x, which I've driven and ridden in numerous times. Favorably impressed with the roominess and level of trim, and assume from my close exam of an M45 at a local mall event that there are no issues with the luxury items, though, from recent reviews the VQ motor has lost some of it's original silkiness when rated at 260 bhp compared to new iteration at 300+. My previous experience with Honda/Acura (CRX and G-2 Integra's) would lead me to believe their product to be less boring than the luxo products from Toyota and Nissan. Plus, although rated as "bland" etc, by the magazine guys, I like the RL's styling and tight look.

Glenn

Other opinions, or suggested alternatives in the price range? $17-20K '05-'06

Check out the Audi A8. :)

Hondasucks 05-28-2009 12:41 AM

Re: Looking for new "Family" car Acura RL vs M35
 
I'd go with a Toyota Avalon, they're pretty nice and they're stinkin fast. Same with the Camry V6, unfortunately neither one is available with a manual tranny :( The Lexus IS/GS are pretty nice too, pretty sure the GS comes with AWD too..

SSSVX 05-28-2009 02:30 AM

Re: Looking for new "Family" car Acura RL vs M35
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Green1995SVX (Post 603038)
Check out the Audi A8. :)


This is a really nice car especially when it comes out.
I only like the model after 2004 till now. :D
For ur price range, you might find one 04, 05 with higher miles.

If you don't mind having a big car like that,
If you don't care about the gas bills(V8 4.2L),
If you don't care about its high maintenance bills,

This is a nice luxurious sedan. :cool:

SSSVX 05-28-2009 03:01 AM

Re: Looking for new "Family" car Acura RL vs M35
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike621 (Post 603010)
You can get the RL and M series with all wheel drive, depending on the year. :)

All Acura RLs after 2005 comes standard with SH-AWD. They call it Super Handling AWD because when you make turns, the AWD system will transfer the torque in between left-rear wheel and right-rear wheel. Honda says that it improves performance on corners but some reviews say it still tends to understeer and feel like a fwd.

The M35 is option for the AWD version. If you choose M35x, it will come with nissan's intelligent AWD system. The M35 is fast because of its good engine performance and fast shifting transmission. The M35x is fun to drive and it feels like a rwd car because when the rear wheels slip the system will only transfer power to the front wheels.

SSSVX 05-28-2009 03:36 AM

Re: Looking for new "Family" car Acura RL vs M35
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RojoRocket (Post 603031)
Other opinions, or suggested alternatives in the price range? $17-20K '05-'06

The new Audi A6 (2005 and up).
You might find one with higher miles(>50K) or if you're willing to pay a few more grands, you might find a good one and still under factory warranty for less than a year. :D I think the A6 interior is more luxurious than the M35 and especially the RL. And the quattro AWD is one of the best.

Or if you like, the 2006 Lexus GS 300 AWD. (AWD is optional)
You can find one around your price range or a little bit more. The miles are probably more than 50k but it's a Toyota. Luxurious interior. Reliable machine. Spacious. The navigation system is one of the best compare to all cars mentioned here. The resolution is the best, more intuitive, and it's touch screen. (similar to Lexus LS460) The keyless start system is finger push-start unlike the RL you still have to use your fingers to turn under the steering column. :D

These are just my $0.02s. I hope you find something you will enjoy. Let us know what do you replace of your subaru wagon. :D


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