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TonyShaleUK 07-03-2004 02:06 AM

Door locks stopped working
 
Just been out. Locks operated as normal. Got back to the house, switched off ignition, door locks didn't release. Locked in! Couldn't release by manually forcing the lock button up.

Exited via trunk!! Trunk lock works off the key, but doors don't!

Help please. Where is the control unit? Can I disable?

Thanks in advance....

nsm484 07-03-2004 03:03 AM

Re: Door locks stopped working
 
Quote:

Originally posted by TonyShaleUK
Just been out. Locks operated as normal. Got back to the house, switched off ignition, door locks didn't release. Locked in! Couldn't release by manually forcing the lock button up.

Exited via trunk!! Trunk lock works off the key, but doors don't!

Help please. Where is the control unit? Can I disable?

Thanks in advance....

I dont meen to Laugh... but I'd Love to see that.
Someone getting out of there car via
the trunk.

Honestly... I dont know what to tell you... That doesnt sound right... Both door Locks didnt work?

From what I know... The SVX Locks seem like the Legacy Locks.
The actual manual ones are the ones hooked to the Locks, and
theres just an Actuwator that locks them both...

So this seems interesting... Unless the Euro Models are different.

TonyShaleUK 07-03-2004 03:44 AM

I tell you what, it doesn't matter how cool the car looks, making an exit via the trunk kills any pretence of street cred!!:D

nsm484 07-03-2004 04:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TonyShaleUK
I tell you what, it doesn't matter how cool the car looks, making an exit via the trunk kills any pretence of street cred!!:D
hahahahahhahahah
Now that was funny.

Nah... you can earn it back
Just tell them your car is just that secure :D

TonyShaleUK 07-03-2004 06:18 AM

Cured it for now.

Managed to open the door by leaving ign on, then pulling up hard on the interior lock button whilst pulling the outside door handle.

Taken door locks out from both doors and removed the solenoids - locks back on. Surprisingly easy. Most of my time has been spent waiting for the rain to stop in between removing and replacing items.

So now it's a manual locking operation, but at least I can't get locked in again....can I?!

UberRoo 07-03-2004 02:06 PM

Is your door lock switch stuck? Maybe a stupid question, but stupid problems often have stupid answers. I saw bunch of mechanics tear their hair out trying to figure out why a power window wouldn't roll down. Twelve hours later, they found the sticky button. (Mechanics, not rocket scientists. Electrical engineering isn't usually a major point of understanding for most automotive shops.)

svxistentialist 07-03-2004 05:34 PM

I once saw Tony climb up a chimney to take a photograph, so exiting via the boot is not that strange!!;) :D :D

Sorry, Tony, it is a smile situation, though.

The Tech manual I have is US, and I am not that clued up on immobilisers and locks, but a couple of things occur you might check.

First, and you have probably tried this, did you lower the driver's window, and see if the doors would unlock from using the key in the door? Just as a temporary measure?

Second, the doors lock on reaching 15 kph as a security feature. The ignition switch-off opens them again. If yours is not opening again, then the relay that does the open/close bit has died in the closed position, or has a bad connection/is not getting the signal. This is assuming it is not alarm or immobiliser related, but is a good place to start.

Joe:)

nsm484 07-03-2004 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by svxistentialist
I once saw Tony climb up a chimney to take a photograph, so exiting via the boot is not that strange!!;) :D :D

Sorry, Tony, it is a smile situation, though.

The Tech manual I have is US, and I am not that clued up on immobilisers and locks, but a couple of things occur you might check.

First, and you have probably tried this, did you lower the driver's window, and see if the doors would unlock from using the key in the door? Just as a temporary measure?

Second, the doors lock on reaching 15 kph as a security feature. The ignition switch-off opens them again. If yours is not opening again, then the relay that does the open/close bit has died in the closed position, or has a bad connection/is not getting the signal. This is assuming it is not alarm or immobiliser related, but is a good place to start.

Joe:)

The Auto-Locking after a certan Speed.. did they have that on the
US Cars as well? Because Mine sure doesnt do that heh

lee 07-03-2004 08:45 PM

if the motor and wiring for the door lock actuator is the same for the Euro market as the US, then a potential cause is the failure of a spring-brass conductor/contact inside the motor. After X number of cycles, it has lost it's ability to "spring" into the correct position. This has happened on two different units to me.

TonyShaleUK 07-04-2004 01:47 AM

Well, I'm pleased that my misfortune has made the world a happier place!! :D

Tried the window down and key in the door - no luck, hence the more drastic action.

The relay sounds like it might be an easy job - sorry, I shouldn't use the word 'easy' when referring to the SVX - :) - so I'll try that first. So where is it located, he says, knowing he's not going to like the answer!!

I've WD40'd everything in sight to do with the door locking - just in case.

I saw the 'springiness' thread when I did a search on the locking topic. I'll leave hat as a last resort!

Thanks guys.

Now all I have to do is solve the engine misfire caused by me cleaning it.....

b3lha 07-05-2004 02:45 AM

Tony,

Have you opened up the actuator?

Ours fill up with water every now and again causing exactly the problem you describe.

Phil & Bel.

TonyShaleUK 07-05-2004 10:18 AM

Not yet - too busy doing other things!

This looks to be held together by a few small philips screws, if I remember?

b3lha 07-05-2004 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TonyShaleUK
Not yet - too busy doing other things!

This looks to be held together by a few small philips screws, if I remember?

Yes. It comes apart easily. Beware of small parts falling out when you open it.

TonyShaleUK 07-06-2004 09:25 AM

Dry as a bone! All parts in place, wipers appear pristine.

Also checked the fuse and that is ok.

Is there a relay in the circuit somewhere?

Tony

b3lha 07-06-2004 09:48 AM

I don't know about a relay, but IIRC the door lock controller is high up behind the glovebox, next to the cruise control unit - very difficult to access.

When the button/key are impossible to move, I think it's because the actuator has stopped half way between open and closed.


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