O/T - new Legacy sneek peek
 

well, its a wagon, but it looks pretty nice. now bring on the turbos! :D

http://www.apexjapan.com/news/04_leg/03_leg_photo.html

Re: O/T - new Legacy sneek peek
 

I'd love to have one of these, but I wonder if, when it makes it to the US, it'll be available only as an Outback model.

I just don't care for the cladding and taller ride height of the Outback.

Re: Re: O/T - new Legacy sneek peek
 

yeah, me neither. I WANNA BLITZEN B4 RSK! (not that i could afford it ;) )

I'm so glad that the new Impreza and Legacy bring with them narrower headlights. I really dug the squinty headlights on the 2nd-gen Legacy and 1st-gen Impreza, and when they got bubbly I didn't care for them.

Subaru's sticking with what works for them styling-wise, for now. That's awesome. I don't care for a lot of new cars coming out.

Looks pretty nice. I dig the dual tailpipes, wonder if those will make it over to the U.S.? I also notice the return of the hoodscoop that disappeared for a couple years.

On the Outback issue: Aren't Legacy sedans and wagons still available aside from the Outback trim level? I thought the Outback versions were but one of a few trims, all the others being lower and w/o cladding. Also they used to offer a Legacy GT model for both sedans and wagons with even more performance orientation as far as ride, etc.

Edit: yep, just checked on Subaru.com and they still offer many variations of the Legacy, including the GT models. Outbacks are just a lot more prevalent on the roads I guess.

I think that the current-gen Legacy and Outback models represent the first actual separation of the models. The first-gen Outbacks were really just lifted Legacys, but I think the current Outbacks are a separate chassis now. Yeah, they're based on the Legacy platform, but I don't think they're as interchangeable as they used to be.

Yeah, Legacy and Outback are pretty close, but if you noticed on the website, the H6 and VDC are available only on Outback models. Legacy models make do with the 166-HP H4, barely adequate for the car.

A Legacy GT H6-VDC would be perfect.

Ahhh You have a good point there. Yes, it is a shame then that they don't offer the GT with the H6, kinda defeats the purpose of GT when the clunky* Outback is probably faster. It is probably due to what Pockets said about the chasis being different, they haven't got the H6 to fit on the regular Legacy yet maybe. I'm sure with this next generation they will though. :)

*by clunky I mean no offense to the Outback, I just needed one word to explain the offroad orientation of the model (extra cladding, ride height, etc). By SUV standards, the Outback is anything but clunky. :)

i dunno about the chassis difference.. i mean, i have no actual evidence to substantiate the fact that they share or don't share rolling gear, but logically, wouldn't you think that they'd both ride on the same platform? i mean really, would it be worth FHI's time and money to build two seperate chassis' for two cars with practically identical drivetrains and body dimensions?

-adam

btw, the new legacy looks pretty friggin' hot..

Yes, the Legacy and Outback are very similar cars and share probably 90% of eachothers' parts. But, as I understand it, the actual body of the current Outback, while derived from the Legacy, is now a different construction.

DADDY LIKES!

BTW the chassies are the same all the Outbacks have are basically lift blocks and longer struts. I have been under many of them and scoped them out.

<A Legacy GT H6-VDC would be perfect>

Even the Forester is getting a turbo motor!
I don't see how the GT should have a base engine while everything else gets a 6 or a turbo....

:confused: :( Don

on NASIOC, they say the turbo Forester may be quicker, or at least as quick as the WRX. the 2.5L engine puts out 235ft/lbs of torque lower in the rpms, and weight is about the same. don't forget the Baja Turbo this year. turbo Legacy is coming, but when (AND HOW MUCH $$$?!?!?!) :)

That pic from dead front centre reminds me of a Honduh Accord (not the new 2003's).

:confused:

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