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Dessertrunner 07-30-2013 03:19 AM

Long story short blew engine with water
 
We are in the top of WA went through a water crossing and stuck the nose in deep water put a rod through the block. locked the the engine solid. We are 5,000k from home so plan to pull engine down remove broken rod and piston, block oil port in crank etc. then drive it home, not sure if it will be a 4 or 5 cylinder till we get it apart. But ha it's all a new experience.
Tony

oab_au 07-30-2013 03:37 AM

Re: Long story short blew engine with water
 
You may have to block the inlet and the exhaust ports with some thing between the manifold and the port, to prevent the oil from blowing out.

Harvey.

Dessertrunner 07-30-2013 04:37 AM

Re: Long story short blew engine with water
 
I think we may pull the hydraulic lifters and plug the oil holes in the head leaving the valves in place to keep the cylinder closed.

Please offer any suggestions you have it will be appricated

SURTEESS 07-30-2013 12:32 PM

Re: Long story short blew engine with water
 
wow - this sort of leaves "man Vs wild" as kid's stuff.....

Good luck & cannot wait to see any photos or write-up about this part of your adventure.

SVXRide 07-30-2013 09:21 PM

Re: Long story short blew engine with water
 
Tony,

May the EG33 Gods smile down upon you! Man vs Wild, indeed!!

Will you still need to seal up the ventilated block to keep oil from the other mains from migrating out?

Cheers
Bill

flamestone 07-31-2013 12:50 AM

Re: Long story short blew engine with water
 
Ouch!

Where exactly in WA? Would it be easier for one of us with a spare block to freight it out to you?

oab_au 07-31-2013 02:07 AM

Re: Long story short blew engine with water
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by flamestone (Post 726527)
Ouch!

Where exactly in WA? Would it be easier for one of us with a spare block to freight it out to you?

He is in Kununurra in WA.
Pulling the engine down to day to see there to go.

Harvey.

Dessertrunner 07-31-2013 03:43 AM

Re: Long story short blew engine with water
 
Okay engine in bits broke rods 1 and 2. Block okay except for a big hole you can put your fist through. But it missed all the oil and coolant ports. One of the rod jammed the crank and that is why it did no further damage. When we took the intake manifold off 5 cylinders were full of water. When we removed the head 4 cylinders had water. Crank took the hit and didn't get damaged so I am amazed.
Maybe tomorrow will be a bad day but today was a god one. The pistons are good and could be reused with a little touch up.
Can't post photos as I am in caravan park.

Very interest project pretty sure we will be coming home on 4 cylinder.
Keep well all.
Tony

oab_au 07-31-2013 03:51 AM

Re: Long story short blew engine with water
 
A 2.2lt Pickle Power:eek:
That will be a first mate.

At least from Kununurra to Griffith is down hill all the way.:D

Harvey.

flamestone 07-31-2013 04:32 AM

Re: Long story short blew engine with water
 
That must have made an "exciting" noise when it happened. Change of underwear needed?

Are you sure you wouldn't be better off with a different block? Surely that kind of impact would have weakened the walls? It'd suck if you got it all back together, only to have it fracture further.

Dessertrunner 08-01-2013 03:29 PM

Re: Long story short blew engine with water
 
Plugged crank with 5by 5mm set screws worked great filled hole in block with the original pice and Devcon, all in all it looks pretty good so time well tell.
It's a bit of a wild plan as a few manchanics think it won't run but hell lets see who is right.

oab_au 08-01-2013 05:37 PM

Re: Long story short blew engine with water
 
I am sure you will get it running enough to drive, but to do the 10.000K? home may be the test.
You would normally go the short way, cross country, but with that set-up, that may be risky, so the long way around would be the way.

Harvey.

SVXRide 08-02-2013 10:07 AM

Re: Long story short blew engine with water
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dessertrunner (Post 726578)
Plugged crank with 5by 5mm set screws worked great filled hole in block with the original pice and Devcon, all in all it looks pretty good so time well tell.
It's a bit of a wild plan as a few manchanics think it won't run but hell lets see who is right.

You can do it, Tony!! :cool:

Bill

Dessertrunner 08-03-2013 09:03 PM

Re: Long story short blew engine with water
 
Waiting on some speedy selves to plug hydraulic lifter oil ports.

oab_au 08-04-2013 06:29 PM

Re: Long story short blew engine with water
 
Things are progressing, talked to Tony last night, just waiting on the sleeves to replace the hydraulic lifters, and it should be good to go.
He didn’t have to split the block to get the rods out, as it made a handy access hole in the top of the block that he could undo the big ends, what luck.:rolleyes:
The engine should run ok as a 4 cylinder 2.2 Lt, the primary balance will be ok as the two missing rods are opposite, but there could be slight secondary out of balance, with the mass of the two rods missing. The firing order will be “fire, fire, miss, fire, fire, miss," which should be fine.

The only other problem is the MAF sensor that will only read 66% of the max air flow on full throttle. Really need a Liberty 2.2 MAF sensor to run right, but where Tony is, does not have any Suby wreckers, so a compromise of running the car with out the sensor, so it uses the back-up tables of rpm and throttle opening, till he gets some where he can get one.

To-day should tell.
Harvey.


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