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Gamesy 05-14-2009 07:11 PM

torque converter issue
 
managed to seat the TC into the bellhousing and aligned onto the splines but cant get the tc to turn so i can bolt it to the flexplate,
Any ideas what might be wrong? and its not in park, tried all gears

TomsSVX 05-14-2009 07:17 PM

Re: torque converter issue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gamesy (Post 601391)
managed to seat the TC into the bellhousing and aligned onto the splines but cant get the tc to turn so i can bolt it to the flexplate,
Any ideas what might be wrong? and its not in park, tried all gears


It is not fully seated and slammed up against the flexplate. Pull the trans back out and rebuild the pump you have destroyed

Tom

Gamesy 05-14-2009 07:52 PM

Re: torque converter issue
 
this wasnt when it was bolted to the flexplate yet, this was just mounting the tc into the bellhousing b4 raising the tranny

TomsSVX 05-14-2009 08:02 PM

Re: torque converter issue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gamesy (Post 601395)
this wasnt when it was bolted to the flexplate yet, this was just mounting the tc into the bellhousing b4 raising the tranny

Well, that sa different store then. If you lift it will it spin?

Tom

Gamesy 05-14-2009 08:17 PM

Re: torque converter issue
 
i dont see how lifting the tranny will make a diff when its just resting on blocks, Can turnthe inner shaft by hand but the out part of the shaft was dead solid, but for the the inner shaft, it can be moved in and out, not sure if thats normal or not... :confused:

Gamesy 05-14-2009 08:19 PM

Re: torque converter issue
 
can get the tc to spin when u pull it out by a centimeter so i wonder if its seated too far? but the starter wont fit onto it at that point if that helps

TomsSVX 05-14-2009 08:19 PM

Re: torque converter issue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gamesy (Post 601400)
i dont see how lifting the tranny will make a diff when its just resting on blocks, Can turnthe inner shaft by hand but the out part of the shaft was dead solid, but for the the inner shaft, it can be moved in and out, not sure if thats normal or not... :confused:

Turning the inner and not the outer is normal. I meant lift the torque converter from the front side and try to spin it. I don't think it is seated properly and the teeth are rubbing the bellhousing

Tom

Gamesy 05-14-2009 09:01 PM

Re: torque converter issue
 
just checked, the teeth arnt rubbing against the bellhousing but i did manage to get it to spin 180 degrees after that i can hear a click/knock sound coming from the tranny, any suggestions?

Gamesy 05-14-2009 11:52 PM

Re: torque converter issue
 
since i can get it to rotate 180 would it be safe to bolt it to the engine and try cranking it over through the drive pulley? or would that break something in the tranny?

longassname 05-15-2009 08:41 AM

Re: torque converter issue
 
Nope, if it's not turning smoothly either you just don't have it splined in all the way or you did in fact smash your pump (which unfortunately others before you have done and apparantly isn't that hard for the uninitiated to do).

longassname 05-15-2009 08:50 AM

Re: torque converter issue
 
If I remember correctly you're using some other type of subaru transmission (not svx transmission). Make sure you are using the correct input shaft to match your torque convter too. Not all subaru's use the same torque converter and input shaft. The input shaft installs into the transmission before you install the torque converter. When it is fully seated the o-ring is very close to the outer splined shaft.

During installation there are 3 things which much spline together. The two notches in the pump driveshaft spline with the two tabs of the pump rotor. The splines on the solid outer shaft spline into the stator of the torque converter. The splines on the input shaft spline into the turbine of the torque converter. For some reason people have difficulty getting this right. Putting the transmission in with it wrong always results in breaking the pump.

Gamesy 05-15-2009 11:07 AM

Re: torque converter issue
 
i'm still using the stock svx 4eat, i was inquiring about the other ones incase the tc was messed but its fine, how do you check to make sure the pump isnt smashed?

When i managed to get it to rotate 180 i was turning it left and right till i heard like a poping sound then i could turn it even more but now its at the point where i cant just slide the tc off anymore so would it be splined properly?

longassname 05-15-2009 01:25 PM

Re: torque converter issue
 
i'm not sure what to say except I'm not sure what you've broken but I'd be inclined to believe something is broken. I'm not sure what to recomend either. I don't think the pump shaft is long enough to remove it from the torque converter and test the pump with it.

Maybe get the converter back off and pull the input shaft and try to spline it in the turbine and turn it?

Gamesy 05-15-2009 03:03 PM

Re: torque converter issue
 
if the pump is busted, how much would it cost to either rebuild it yourself or get it rebuilt?

Gamesy 05-17-2009 07:26 PM

Re: torque converter issue
 
ok ever since i got the tc to have a free back and forth half rotation i cant seem to get it into position to pull the tc back off, any suggestions?


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